[Frameworks] UbuWeb...HACKED!

Wed Oct 13 22:06:31 CDT 2010

Can anyone point us to an article or news account of this? In what way was Ubu hacked such that it has had to completely shut down?  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jack at jacktext.net 
  To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [Frameworks] UbuWeb...HACKED!

  Allowing people to see things - people who live in, say, the developing world, not in New York or London or wherever - letting them know there's more to cinema than the latest blockbuster - can only be of value. Not everything is available on DVD. Many countries practice censorship. Ubuweb offers / offered a celebration of the possibilities in creative practice that otherwise people may never get to experience. 

  BTW there's also evidence that people who LIKE stuff they find online subsequently purchase it.

  Jack

  On 14/10/2010, at 12:45 PM, Matt Helme wrote:

    To not get permission is rude and illegal.
    Matt

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    From: "jack at jacktext.net" <jack at jacktext.net>
    To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
    Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 8:59:12 PM
    Subject: Re: [Frameworks] UbuWeb...HACKED!

    http://jacksargeant.blogspot.com/2010/10/vale-ubu.html

    On 14/10/2010, at 11:48 AM, Beth Capper wrote:

      And, if you ever read Cory Doctorow, you'll realize that yes, people do buy the books even when it's out there for free (Doctorow's books are all available online for download, yet two of them have been on bestseller's lists). Could it perhaps be a misconception that forcing scarcity (esp. in the case of digital works) is a good business model? 

      On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Beverly O'Neill <bevon1 at earthlink.net> wrote:

        Dear Jack,  Your point is well taken.  How do viewers get access to this kind of work?  However, UBU simply pirated artists films without asking permission, or paying a small fee to upload films onto their site.  Two years ago this listserv spent considerable time arguing about the validity of Ken Goldsmith's (UBU's creator) tactics.  If you backtrack in the Frameworks archive you can follow that thread.  Everything that was said then still applies today.  Many of the responses supported the case you are making now.  Obviously I was opposed.

        Don't close the library, don't prohibit access but do buy the books.

        Beverly O'

          "good news"?

          not for anybody who wants to see one of these movies, read an essay or listen to some sound who doesn't live in a major urban centre or have access to a museum. Maybe the copyright is an issue, but they made work available that often isn't readily accessible, and that counts for something.

          Bottom line is that regardless of anything, it's a resource and a library, and I've never been one for prohibiting access and closing libraries...

          Jack

          On 14/10/2010, at 7:29 AM, Beverly O'Neill wrote:

            Ah, this is such good news.  I will refrain from posting a screed about that site.  A Google search offers a number of condolences to Ken Goldsmith, UBU's founder.  One writer wondered if the anniversary of John Lennon's death and the simultaneous hacking of UBU had anything in common. 
            So thrilled!
            Beverly O'Neill 

            On Oct 11, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Shane Christian Eason wrote:

              So...yeah...um...apparently UBU is offline! Hacked! 

              Considering what has been discussed in the past regarding this website, 
              does anyone want to comment on this? Additional information? Very odd, 
              considering I was on the site this past weekend. Although, my iPhone App 
              for WFMU UbuWeb Radio continues to work. 

              Curious,

              Shane
              _________________________________________ 
              Shane Christian Eason, BFA; MFA
              School of Communication and Multimedia Studies
              Dorothy F. Schmidt College of Arts & Letters
              Florida Atlantic University 

              O: (954) 762 5246
              F: (954) 762 5122
              E1: eason at fau.edu
              E2: shaneeason at yahoo.ca

              Blog: shaneeason.blogspot.com
              Web: shanechristianeason.com

              Miami | Fort Lauderdale | Palm Beach

              _______________________________________________
              FrameWorks mailing list
              FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
              http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

            _______________________________________________
            FrameWorks mailing list
            FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
            http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

          _______________________________________________
          FrameWorks mailing list
          FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
          http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

        _______________________________________________
        FrameWorks mailing list
        FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
        http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

      _______________________________________________
      FrameWorks mailing list
      FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
      http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

    _______________________________________________
    FrameWorks mailing list
    FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
    http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  _______________________________________________
  FrameWorks mailing list
  FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
  http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20101013/1f7dc39c/attachment.html 