[Frameworks] experimental documentary

Matt Helme dcinema2134 at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 18 11:24:58 CDT 2010


It was experimental for it's time.
Matt




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From: Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines at mindspring.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 6:25:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] experimental documentary

Matt Helme writes:

"Don't Look Back" by Pennebaker probably qualifies because it represented a 
new and groundbreaking way to make a film at the time."

Dont Look Back (no apostrophe) is probably Penny's best film, but I wouldn't 
really call it experimental, though it was one of the first cinema-verite 
films to get a theatrical release.   There are earlier films of his that are 
probably more experimental, if you want to use that term -- his films 
"Elizabeth and Mary" and "You're Nobody Til Somebody Loves You" come to 
mind.

Since Fred Camper mentions Brakhage's Pittsburgh films, a good double bill 
might be one of those and one of John Marshall's Pittsburgh films -- either 
Three Domestics or Vagrant Woman.  John Marshall really should be considered 
the maker of Titicut Follies, as it was Wiseman's first film and Marshall 
shot it -- though Fred W is certainly responsible for the editing (a peeve 
of Marshall's).  Since Titicut Follies is now widely available, go with 
something that's hard to see but memorable.  They are available from DER.

William Klein's great film about Muhammed Ali (The Greatest) is amazing 
(skip the color section at the end that was tacked on) and beautiful -- a 
picture of a lost America.  On DVD, easily gotten.

And to be immodest, my partner Joel DeMott's Demon Lover Diary is a 
pioneering cinema-verite/diary film that influenced many, but it's not easy 
to get.

I really dislike the term documentary unless used historically -- it has 
become meaningless in our world of reality TV.  (My lord, the last episode 
of The Hills steals from Godard and Medium Cool and is a reprehensible piece 
of shit.  But I digress.)

Jeff Kreines


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