[Frameworks] experimental documentary

[anja ross]

2010/7/18 anja ross <anjach.ross at googlemail.com>

> *Dear Matt,*
> *I can imagine: It was experimental for it's time.*
> *But infact if you look at the films today (it does not feel better). Last
> time I went to the Babylon and looked Metropolis and infact I felt: it is
> great! But they put new music over this Film and I felt it is disgusting!
> Maybe the dumb film might be interesting to look without music nowadays.*
> **
> *Anja
> *
> 2010/7/18 Matt Helme <dcinema2134 at yahoo.com>
>
>   It was experimental for it's time.
>> Matt
>>
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>> *From:* Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines at mindspring.com>
>>
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> *Sent:* Sun, July 18, 2010 6:25:20 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] experimental documentary
>>
>> Matt Helme writes:
>>
>> "Don't Look Back" by Pennebaker probably qualifies because it represented
>> a
>> new and groundbreaking way to make a film at the time."
>>
>> Dont Look Back (no apostrophe) is probably Penny's best film, but I
>> wouldn't
>> really call it experimental, though it was one of the first cinema-verite
>> films to get a theatrical release.  There are earlier films of his that
>> are
>> probably more experimental, if you want to use that term -- his films
>> "Elizabeth and Mary" and "You're Nobody Til Somebody Loves You" come to
>> mind.
>>
>> Since Fred Camper mentions Brakhage's Pittsburgh films, a good double bill
>>
>> might be one of those and one of John Marshall's Pittsburgh films --
>> either
>> Three Domestics or Vagrant Woman.  John Marshall really should be
>> considered
>> the maker of Titicut Follies, as it was Wiseman's first film and Marshall
>> shot it -- though Fred W is certainly responsible for the editing (a peeve
>>
>> of Marshall's).  Since Titicut Follies is now widely available, go with
>> something that's hard to see but memorable.  They are available from DER.
>>
>> William Klein's great film about Muhammed Ali (The Greatest) is amazing
>> (skip the color section at the end that was tacked on) and beautiful -- a
>> picture of a lost America.  On DVD, easily gotten.
>>
>> And to be immodest, my partner Joel DeMott's Demon Lover Diary is a
>> pioneering cinema-verite/diary film that influenced many, but it's not
>> easy
>> to get.
>>
>> I really dislike the term documentary unless used historically -- it has
>> become meaningless in our world of reality TV.  (My lord, the last episode
>>
>> of The Hills steals from Godard and Medium Cool and is a reprehensible
>> piece
>> of shit.  But I digress.)
>>
>> Jeff Kreines
>>
>>
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