[Frameworks] info on hand-processing colour film needed

Nicholas O'Brien nicholasobri at gmail.com
Tue Jul 20 14:11:01 CDT 2010


These measurements are great!

If you're using the Tetenal kit, go with this!
great stuff (makes me want to go back into the darkroom...)

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jonathan Capone <jdcapone at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Veronica,
>
>  It's really easy to do E-6 processing for color reversal with a
> tetenal kit.  The tetenal kits combine the bleach and fixer, which
> makes it bad for reticulation and toning, but it has less steps than
> the one kodak offers.
>
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/109282-REG/Tetenal_T102031_E_6_3_Bath_Kit_for.html
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/109284-REG/Tetenal_T102034_E_6_3_Bath_Kit_for.html
>
> Here's a list of the temp/times I have been using:
> First Developer:
> °F      1st third       2nd third       3 third
> 70      26              27              28
> 72      24              25              26
> 74      21:30   22:30   23
> 76      19:30   20              21
> 78      18              18:30   19:30
> 80      16:30   17              18
> 82      15              15:30   16
> 84      13:30   14              14:30
> 86      12:30   13              13:30
> 88      11:30   12              12:30
> 90      10:30   11              11:15
> 92      9:30            10              10:15
> 94      8:30            8:45            9:15
> 96      7:45            8               8:15
> 98      7               7:15            7:30
> 100     6:30            6:45            7
> 102     5:45            6               6:15
> 104     5:15            5:30            5:45
> 106     4:45            5               5:15
> 108     4:30            4               4:45
> 110     4               4:15            4:15
>
> Wash 3 min
>
> Color Developer
> °F
> 70      9
> 75      8:30
> 80      8
> 85      7:30
> 90      7
> 95      6:30
> 100     6
> 105     5:30
> 110     5
>
> After Color Developer the following stages can be done in the light
> Wash 3 min
>
> Bleach/Fix
> 10 min minimum any temp between 70-100 degrees
>
> Wash 4 min
>
> Stabilizer 1 Min any temp between 70-100 degrees
>
> Hope that helps,
> Jonathan Capone
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Veronica Ibarra
> <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I hand-process my own B&W 16mm film and would like to do the same with
> > colour, reversal or neg. I use a Lomo tank.
> >
> > Could anyone tell me how to do it? chemicals needed, times, temperatures,
> > etc?
> > Or maybe someone knows where I could get this information?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Best
> > Veronica
> > www.veronicaibarra.com
> > ________________________________
> > De: Rory Brosius <rikimaru75 at hotmail.com>
> > Para: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > Enviado: mar,20 julio, 2010 18:51
> > Asunto: Re: [Frameworks] experimental documentary (thank you)
> >
> > Christopher,
> > Thank you for the kind response.  I hope you are able to incorporate
> > everything you hope to.
> > Keep us updated!
> > Cheers,
> > Rory
> > PS:  If you are looking to incorporate some interesting portraits,
> > docudrama, and "self-reflexive" films (as Marilyn had said)...
> > Grey Gardens: Albert & David Maysles
> > Sherman's March: Ross McElwee
> >
> > War: Jake Mahaffy
> > Chain: Jem Cohen
> > and for fun...
> > The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters: Seth Gordon
> > ________________________________
> > From: charris91 at hotmail.com
> > To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:34:54 +0000
> > Subject: [Frameworks] experimental documentary (thank you)
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for so many excellent and thought provoking
> > recommendations.  Some of them were already on my radar but many others
> had
> > either slipped my mind or were completely unknown to me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in particular to Amanda, Dan, Robert, Dinorah, Jeanne, Ken, Matt,
> > Mike, Jason, Carl, Sonali, David, Ted, Elizabeth, Mads, Greg, James,
> Shane,
> > Jeff, Beverly, Manuele, Rory and Rob (whew!).
> >
> >
> >
> > Special thanks to Marilyn, Jason and Rory for prodding me to focus my
> > thoughts a bit more as I begin to shape the syllabus for the course.
> >
> >
> >
> > In response to their comments a little context is probably in order:
> >
> >
> >
> > The class I will be teaching this fall is called Film Documentary.  Based
> on
> > past experience with the student body I suspect that the vast majority of
> my
> > students have an idea of documentary that does not go very far beyond Ken
> > Burns and Michael Moore.  Its within this context that I decided that I
> > would teach an "experimental documentary" course in order to challenge
> these
> > sorts of preconceptions.  In any case when I posted my initial query to
> > Frameworks I deliberately left the terminology undefined so as to cast as
> > wide a net as possible in the hopes that I would get a range of responses
> > (it seemed to have worked). I assumed correctly that many responses would
> > point me in directions that I might not have anticipated.  At the same
> time
> > I included the names of certain film and video makers in order to provide
> > some sense of what I meant by "experimental."  The point was to provide
> some
> > context without closing off potential avenues.
> >
> >
> >
> > Marilyn wondered about the purpose of the course.  One of the major areas
> of
> > focus for this class will be, as Marilyn put it, on "self-reflexive
> > documentaries that are honest, also, about their subjectivity.”  Rather
> than
> > a history of such films I intend to design the course as an introduction
> to
> > these kinds of films (and videos) with no attempt to be exhaustive or
> > definitive.  In this spirit, the discussions around terminology
> > (“experimental” and “documentary”) will be integrated into the course
> with
> > as little doctrinaire fanfare as possible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason, I wholeheartedly agree that there are no clear boundaries between
> > Narrative, Documentary and Experimental film.  I intend to design the
> course
> > in such way that the content and spirit of the course convey this lack of
> > definitive boundaries.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rory, Documentary Film is a theory course however I have recently begun
> to
> > fold optional production assignments into my theory courses and I intend
> to
> > do the same with my “experimental” version of the this class.  How
> exactly I
> > will do this has yet to be determined.  I am not sure how much experience
> > with hands on processes.  Certainly the discussion around terminology and
> > processes will have to be placed within an historical context.
> >
> >
> >
> > Again, thanks to all the very helpful feedback.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> >
> > CH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
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> > Hotmail. Get busy.
> >
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