[Frameworks] Analog and digital

[Shelly Silver]

a hybrid film/video that played with this from a more genre-specific,  
less essentialist point of view is my
The Houses that Are Left

a story which combined the living ('art house' b&w 16mm) with the dead  
(soap opera, shot on high end video) with 'the real' (street  
interviews shot eng video style)

best,
shelly

On Aug 30, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Kim Knowles wrote:

> I'm wondering how to think through some of these issues on a  
> theoretical level, a way of teasing out the complexities around  
> medium-specificity, aura, nostalgia etc. Someone mentioned hybrid  
> works, those that bring together the qualities of film and (digital)  
> video and the different things that can be done in each medium. I've  
> been looking at some films by Thorsten Fleisch ('Wound Footage'),  
> Shambhavi Kaul ('Scene 32') and Makino Takashi. I was excited to see  
> the thread developing in this area and then disappointed to see it  
> fade so quickly. I love film, deeply, and lose sleep over the  
> thought of its demise (really!), but I wonder how film and video  
> might be able to talk to each other, to have the conversation that  
> they really need to have, to work things out, accept their  
> differences ... I wonder how theory might follow, how our  
> understanding of film/video aesthetics might be changed as a result.  
> There has been some (well, a lot!) of work on medium-specificity in  
> the digital era but none of it seems to look at hybridity,  
> especially in terms of the embodied responses that some Frameworkers  
> have been referring to. Does anyone know of work in this area?
>
> I think this has been a fascinating and inspiring thread. The voices  
> of film lovers should be heard. Play loud!
>
> Kim
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 00:23:09 -0400
> > From: Steven at gladstonefilms.com
> > To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Analog and digital
> >
> > On 8/27/11 9:12 PM, Flick Harrison wrote:
> >
> > > I'd call film analog because each grain is exposed to a light of  
> varying
> > > colour and brightness, for any amount of time, focused by any  
> amount,
> > > then processed with more or less chemicals and time, all of  
> which are
> > > analog variables. The placement of grain on a frame is also  
> random and
> > > analog.
> >
> > Digital - provides a precise voltage state (either on or off) for  
> each
> > "photosite"/pixel. Here is the thing.
> >
> > 1. If you say digital is ones and zeroes you are referring to and  
> analog
> > representation of on and off. It isn't really ones and zeroes.
> > Noise floor and strength of signal, and signal degradation will all
> > affect how this is represented. In digital it is either on or off,  
> if a
> > signal is above the off state but not fully at the on state, then  
> what?
> > It is rounded either up or down to on or off. This can lead to  
> various
> > issues in either capture, or display.
> >
> > 2. All imagers are ANALOG. In the process of converting the light
> > striking the imager (film or electronic sensor) to an electronic  
> version
> > (um analog) for storage and later display it is "sampled" and  
> converted
> > to numerical values. The more samples per second, the smoother the
> > resulting waveforms will be when the digital information is  
> reconverted
> > to analog for display. The more pixels as well, equates to smoother
> > transitions.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Steven Gladstone
> > New York Based Cinematographer
> > Gladstone films
> > Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/
> > http://www.blakehousemovie.com
> > http://www.gladstonefilms.com
> > 917-886-5858
> > _______________________________________________
> > FrameWorks mailing list
> > FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20110830/9c15f661/attachment.html