[Frameworks] Please stop responding WITH the attachment. It's overloading my computer.

[Jonathan Walley]

The answer to your last question, unfortunately, is yes. Every year,  
usually in the summer, there is a flamewar about email etiquette on  
this list, involving all sorts of attempts - some reasonably worded,  
others WAYYY too angry - to regulate how people express themselves on  
the list, what people should or should not do when sending emails to  
the list, how attachments and the like should be handled, etc., etc.  
And typically, as has been the case in this round, assumptions are  
made about people based on the most scant, paltry evidence imaginable  
(someone from Yale MUST be a rich kid, anyone with an "edu" at the end  
of their email address must be a flabby academic who "couldn't do" and  
so decided to teach, and so forth...).

Maybe it's the heat getting to us, or the boredom for those who are  
off from teaching (myself included). But whatever it is, I don't take  
it as a sign of life. When people on Frameworks get passionate, angry,  
contentious, even downright snarky, about experimental film, then I  
love it. But this perennial flare-up, my LEAST favorite one, is  
tiresome.

Love to all,
Jonathan

p.s. my FAVORITE perennial flare-up is "what is experimental film?"


On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Dennis Williams wrote:

> i'd like to ban smiley faces. and those from ivy league schools with  
> poorly functioning computers, and those who suggest bans, and those  
> who are too sensitive, and... okay. i've had my laughs. is this  
> typical? if so, i'll now spend more time on frameworks! yes, we're  
> alive! and kicking, and biting, and scratching.
> dennis
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Dennis Williams  
> <wdcwdfilm at gmail.com> wrote:
> :)
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Matt Helme <dcinema2134 at yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
> Some groups just don't allow attachments, it may be spam or a virus.  
> We should have the same rule.
> Matt
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/oscarthepug1234 http://www.matthelme.webs.com/
>
> --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:
>
> From: Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Please stop responding WITH the  
> attachment. It's overloading my computer.
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com 
> >
> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 4:27 PM
>
>
> Quoting Chuck Kleinhans <chuckkle at northwestern.edu>:
>
> > Well, this isn't a very helpful attitude....
>
> > On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
> >
> >> please buy a proper computer
>
> It's a lot worse than not very helpful. TELLING someone to buy a new
> computer??? How rude can you get. We don't know his financial
> situation, or how he chooses to spend his money.
>
> My vote would be for restricting all FrameWorks posts to plain text
> email. Let's ban all attachments, not just the 4 MB ones, and ban
> html. I don't know if this is possible, and maybe most won't want to
> do this, but to me, everything other than plain text is bad manners,
> and usually some kind of advertising. Put your video or whatever on
> the Web and post the link.
>
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
>
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> history." --
>
>
>
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Jonathan Walley
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Denison University
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