[Frameworks] withoutabox

[Seth Fragomen]

Has anyone gotten work into a larger (and I hate to use that word) festival
using withoutabox? So far, it sounds like it works well for many festivals
(though the positive comments mostly came from the programmers). The curator
comments are great, but I think it's important to hear from the submitters.
I'm asking all this because I'm really curious to hear other filmmakers'
experience with withoutabox for all types of festivals.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Marcel Schwierin <marcel at schwierin.de>wrote:

> Cannes and Berlinale have fees, but these are exceptions in Europe. The
> lack of fees are also the reason why European film festivals rarely join
> withoutabox or similar organizations, they just would get more entries (and
> Oberhausen got nearly 5.500 last year). If you charge the filmmakers you get
> less entries which means you have more time for each work and you might be
> even able to write polite rejection letters - as Cannes and Berlinale do. So
> the fees have pros and cons. Both as filmmaker and as festival curator I
> prefer the version without fees.
>
> Marcel Schwierin
> www.schwierin.de
>
>
>
> Am Do. 03.03.11 um 05:19 schrieb Marcin Gizycki:
>
> > All important short, documentary, and animated film festivals in Europe
> that I am aware of, Oberhausen, Krakow, Annecy, Zagreb, Poznan and many,
> many others, do not have a fee.
> >
> > In my opinion, asking for a fee is immoral, if screenings are ticketed.
> >
> > Marcin
> >
> >
> > From: Matt Helme
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:01 PM
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
> >
> > Some I've seen in Switzerland and Australia do have a fee.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oscarthepug1234&aq=f
> >
> >
> > From: Shelly Silver <silvernyc at earthlink.net>
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:42:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
> >
> > almost all that i know of.
> >
> >
> > On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Matt Helme wrote:
> >
> >> Which foreign festivals don't have a fee?
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oscarthepug1234&aq=f
> >>
> >>
> >> From: alina skrzeszewska <aline.skrazz at googlemail.com>
> >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> >> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 8:07:48 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
> >>
> >> I had feature-length work accepted through WAB, at festivals where I
> knew no one. But they were smaller festivals.
> >>
> >> The problem is, for the most part the festivals that are on WAB are the
> ones that want submission fees.
> >> When submitting to many film festivals around the world (excluding the
> U.S.), withoutabox is not an option anyway. Plus, you don't have to pay to
> submit.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alina SKRZESZEWSKA
> >> Filmmaker /  Moving Image Artist
> >>
> >>
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