[Frameworks] withoutabox

[DOMINIC ANGERAME]

The past 8 months I have entered more a dozen film festivals. My work The Soul 
of  Things was shown through my own efforts and not WAB at:

SF Film Festival
Onion City Film Festival
Exis Film Festival
Toronto Film Festival
Views from the Avant Garde
Cinema by the Bay
Viennale Film Festival

rejected by two

Through WAB I entered more than 10 other festivals and rejected by all but one. 
They include:

Ann Arbor
Black Maria
Mill Valley
just to name a few

Accepted by one
Big Muddy Film Festival

rejected by 8

This is a big difference, many fests will only accept films from WAB, unless 
privately invited by Directors and or programmers outside of the entry process. 
And there are quite a few of those too.

DA

PS Sorry my name is always capitalized, I do not know how to change it.




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From: Seth Fragomen <sef208 at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:59:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox

Has anyone gotten work into a larger (and I hate to use that word) festival 
using withoutabox? So far, it sounds like it works well for many festivals 
(though the positive comments mostly came from the programmers). The curator 
comments are great, but I think it's important to hear from the submitters. I'm 
asking all this because I'm really curious to hear other filmmakers' experience 
with withoutabox for all types of festivals. 


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Marcel Schwierin <marcel at schwierin.de> wrote:

Cannes and Berlinale have fees, but these are exceptions in Europe. The lack of 
fees are also the reason why European film festivals rarely join withoutabox or 
similar organizations, they just would get more entries (and Oberhausen got 
nearly 5.500 last year). If you charge the filmmakers you get less entries which 
means you have more time for each work and you might be even able to write 
polite rejection letters - as Cannes and Berlinale do. So the fees have pros and 
cons. Both as filmmaker and as festival curator I prefer the version without 
fees.
>
>Marcel Schwierin
>www.schwierin.de
>
>
>
>Am Do. 03.03.11 um 05:19 schrieb Marcin Gizycki:
>
>
>> All important short, documentary, and animated film festivals in Europe that I 
>>am aware of, Oberhausen, Krakow, Annecy, Zagreb, Poznan and many, many others, 
>>do not have a fee.
>>
>> In my opinion, asking for a fee is immoral, if screenings are ticketed.
>>
>> Marcin
>>
>>
>> From: Matt Helme
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:01 PM
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
>>
>> Some I've seen in Switzerland and Australia do have a fee.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oscarthepug1234&aq=f
>>
>>
>> From: Shelly Silver <silvernyc at earthlink.net>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:42:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
>>
>> almost all that i know of.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Matt Helme wrote:
>>
>>> Which foreign festivals don't have a fee?
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oscarthepug1234&aq=f
>>>
>>>
>>> From: alina skrzeszewska <aline.skrazz at googlemail.com>
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 8:07:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
>>>
>>> I had feature-length work accepted through WAB, at festivals where I knew no 
>>>one. But they were smaller festivals.
>>>
>>> The problem is, for the most part the festivals that are on WAB are the ones 
>>>that want submission fees.
>>> When submitting to many film festivals around the world (excluding the U.S.), 
>>>withoutabox is not an option anyway. Plus, you don't have to pay to submit.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alina SKRZESZEWSKA
>>> Filmmaker /  Moving Image Artist
>>>
>>>
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