[Frameworks] withoutabox

Fri Mar 4 00:46:15 CST 2011

contact me off the list ok
da

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From: "jack at jacktext.net" <jack at jacktext.net>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 4:54:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox

Dominic - 
Did you submit to any of the experimental or underground or indie film 
festivals? I'm thinking of festivals like Raindance, Chicago Underground, Sydney 
Underground, Boston Underground, London Underground and so on.
Jack

On 04/03/2011, at 9:10 AM, DOMINIC ANGERAME wrote:

The past 8 months I have entered more a dozen film festivals. My work The Soul 
of  Things was shown through my own efforts and not WAB at:
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>SF Film Festival
>Onion City Film Festival
>Exis Film Festival
>Toronto Film Festival
>Views from the Avant Garde
>Cinema by the Bay
>Viennale Film Festival
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>rejected by two
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>Through WAB I entered more than 10 other festivals and rejected by all but one. 
>They include:
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>Ann Arbor
>Black Maria
>Mill Valley
>just to name a few
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>Accepted by one
>Big Muddy Film Festival
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>rejected by 8
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>This is a big difference, many fests will only accept films from WAB, unless 
>privately invited by Directors and or programmers outside of the entry process. 
>And there are quite a few of those too.
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>DA
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>PS Sorry my name is always capitalized, I do not know how to change it.
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From: Seth Fragomen <sef208 at gmail.com>
>To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:59:58 AM
>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
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>Has anyone gotten work into a larger (and I hate to use that word) festival 
>using withoutabox? So far, it sounds like it works well for many festivals 
>(though the positive comments mostly came from the programmers). The curator 
>comments are great, but I think it's important to hear from the submitters. I'm 
>asking all this because I'm really curious to hear other filmmakers' experience 
>with withoutabox for all types of festivals. 
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>On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Marcel Schwierin <marcel at schwierin.de> wrote:
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>Cannes and Berlinale have fees, but these are exceptions in Europe. The lack of 
>fees are also the reason why European film festivals rarely join withoutabox or 
>similar organizations, they just would get more entries (and Oberhausen got 
>nearly 5.500 last year). If you charge the filmmakers you get less entries which 
>means you have more time for each work and you might be even able to write 
>polite rejection letters - as Cannes and Berlinale do. So the fees have pros and 
>cons. Both as filmmaker and as festival curator I prefer the version without 
>fees.
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>>Marcel Schwierin
>>www.schwierin.de
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>>Am Do. 03.03.11 um 05:19 schrieb Marcin Gizycki:
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>>> All important short, documentary, and animated film festivals in Europe that I 
>>>am aware of, Oberhausen, Krakow, Annecy, Zagreb, Poznan and many, many others, 
>>>do not have a fee.
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>>> In my opinion, asking for a fee is immoral, if screenings are ticketed.
>>>
>>> Marcin
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>>> From: Matt Helme
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:01 PM
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
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>>> Some I've seen in Switzerland and Australia do have a fee.
>>>
>>> Matt
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>>> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oscarthepug1234&aq=f
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>>> From: Shelly Silver <silvernyc at earthlink.net>
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:42:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
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>>> almost all that i know of.
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>>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Matt Helme wrote:
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>>>> Which foreign festivals don't have a fee?
>>>> Matt
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>>>> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oscarthepug1234&aq=f
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>>>> From: alina skrzeszewska <aline.skrazz at googlemail.com>
>>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>>>> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 8:07:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] withoutabox
>>>>
>>>> I had feature-length work accepted through WAB, at festivals where I knew no 
>>>>one. But they were smaller festivals.
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>>>> The problem is, for the most part the festivals that are on WAB are the ones 
>>>>that want submission fees.
>>>> When submitting to many film festivals around the world (excluding the U.S.), 
>>>>withoutabox is not an option anyway. Plus, you don't have to pay to submit.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alina SKRZESZEWSKA
>>>> Filmmaker /  Moving Image Artist
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