[Frameworks] B & W on colour stock

Shumona Goel shumonagoel at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 04:23:20 CST 2011


Dear Friends,

I am trying to print a 16mm black and white film onto colour stock because
there is no black and white print stock available in India, nor is there a
lab that would process it.  I recently did a test that had a strong magenta
tint.

Is it even possible to get a black and white image?  I am beginning to
wonder whether HD projection may just be the only route.



Thanks in advance for any advice.

Warmly,
Shumona



On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:00 AM, tammy kinsey <tammy.kinsey at gmail.com>wrote:

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> Hello Adam
> this one was shot from the balcony & roof of the hotel i was staying in (i
> was in nouakchott for a week); edit approved by the local film-makers
> though (wanted to make sure i wasn't misrepresenting ...)
> http://www.moiratierney.net/nouakchott.htm (very basic info)
> what are you compiling the films for?
> cheers Moira
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> Subject: [Frameworks] Travelogues
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> Hello you,
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> I am trying to pull together a list of experimental films that either fall
> directly under the category of "travelogue" or bear witness to travel and
> distance from a point of origin on the part of the filmmaker. These would
> not be so much ethnographic works which are part of a sustained cultural
> exchange, but films made as a result of the filmmaker "passing through" and
> acknowledging the looming spectre/problem/pleasure of "the tourist film".
> Warren Sonbert, perhaps John Smith's "The Hotel Diaries"? I'm sure there
> are others...but can you name them?
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> Thanks/Grazie/Kiitos!
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> From: Jonathan Thomas <cinemametafisica at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Value systems
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> I don't see value as a dated concept, although commodity value is
> irrelevant. For me, a work has value when it provokes thought, when it
> creates a space to contemplate / meditate on (in the Heideggerian sense)
> the world (as experienced, mediated, related, etc.). Although personally I
> find formalist, materialist work very appealing, this is contained within
> an idea of art as thinking tool over art as object.I do agree, like most
> people probably, that large galleries and museums do play safe, but haven't
> they always? I always aim for artist-run spaces that engender a much more
> widely critical and contextual discourse. 20th century theories of art are
> not yet dated and irrelevant, to me at least. There was a lot of it, and we
> are still wading through it all, trying to untangle it and assess its
> relevance. There has to remain a strand of early 21st century art and
> theory that constitutes a critical pause for breath.
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> --- On Sun, 20/11/11, Bernard Roddy <roddybp at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Bernard Roddy <roddybp at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Value systems
> To: "frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Date: Sunday, 20 November, 2011, 14:06
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> Value as a reference today strikes me as dated.  It draws on a period when
> art as commodity was an interesting question.
> Restrictions on freedom of expression are back.  It's time to examine the
> renewal of conservativism in media art.
> To propose a term for critical study: professional responsibility.  Not
> the debate between modernist and post-modernist experimental film.  Not the
> relevance of "avant-garde."
>
> Performance art's history is really to the point.  We see a transformation
> of performance art's provocations into not only gallery-safe work but a
> kind of artistic administrator's ideal.
> Apologies for the obscurity.
> Bernie
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> From: "David Gryn" <david at artprojx.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Artprojx Cinema: Art Video, Art Basel Miami
>        Beach,  Nov 30 - Dec 4 2011 - invite
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> Dear Frameworkers - if anyone is in Miami - you are welcome to join us -
> these Art Video screenings are Free to all. Best wishes David
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> Artprojx Cinema: Art Video, Art Basel Miami Beach, Nov 30 - Dec 4 2011.
> David Gryn director of London's Artprojx has organised and curated Art
> Video, featuring film and video works by today's most exciting
> international artists, submitted by the galleries of Art Basel Miami Beach.
> Specially organized and commissioned, for the 10th Edition of the Fair, Art
> Video will be screened for the first time in the SoundScape Park, on the
> 7,000-square-foot outdoor projection wall of the Frank Gehry designed New
> World Center, as well as within five viewing pods inside the Miami Beach
> Convention Center. Artists selected include: Cory Arcangel, Yael Bartana,
> Pierre Bismuth, Slater Bradley, Brice Dellsperger, Tracey Emin, Kota Ezawa,
> Dara Friedman, Theaster Gates, Katy Grannan, Neil Hamon, Alex Hubbard,
> Christian Jankowski, Cristina Lucas, Ryan McGinley, Marilyn Minter, Laurel
> Nakadate, Rashaad Newsome, Hans Op de Beeck, Martha Rosler, Matt Saunders,
> Lorna Simpson, Penny Siopis, Clemens von Wedemeyer. See the full programme
> at http://www.artbaselmiamibeach.com
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> From: "Gawthrop, Rob" <Rob.Gawthrop at falmouth.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Value systems
> To: Bernard Roddy <roddybp at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film Discussion
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> The point I was making in my question followed on from Fred’s posting that
> included:
>
> It seems to be entirely acceptable and unquestioned on this list to post
> that some or all forms of video projection look like crap ... As a format
> for presenting film, it is, of course, imperfect, as I myself argued almost
> three decades ago, though that was in the days of VHS, a lot worse than
> more recent formats.
>
> Assumptions about ‘quality’ need to be challenged.  Issues around
> ‘quality’ are based upon value systems which in themselves operate
> ideologically.  Can the politics be seperated from the aesthetics?  This
> seems entirely relevent as we watch evictions of the Occupations - and that
> doesn’t mean I’m advocating literalism - just putting my original question
> into context.
>
> Rob
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>
> On 20/11/2011 16:47, "Bernard Roddy" <roddybp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Oh and . . this encounter with a provocative work tends to draw ALL
>  attention to it AS  provocation, to the detriment of the work.  That's the
> real price of a restrictive environment.  It' s not just a price paid in
> terms of the interest new work generates.  It's certainly not just a
> question of having some kind of political "impact."  The greatest price is
> that of interpretation.  You get really dumb fixations on work if there
> isn't a serious investigation of what gets passed off as "provocation."
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
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> ________________________________
>  From: Bernard Roddy <roddybp at yahoo.com>
>  To: "frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:06 AM
>  Subject: [Frameworks] Value systems
>
>
> Value as a reference today strikes me as dated.  It draws on a period when
> art as commodity was an interesting question.
>
> Restrictions on freedom of expression are back.  It's time to examine the
> renewal of conservativism in media art.
>
> To propose a term for critical study: professional responsibility.  Not
> the debate between modernist and post-modernist experimental film.  Not the
> relevance of "avant-garde."
>
> Performance art's history is really to the point.  We see a transformation
> of performance art's provocations into not only gallery-safe work but a
> kind of artistic administrator's ideal.
>
> Apologies for the obscurity.
>
> Bernie
>
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