[Frameworks] shooting and hand processing expired film

Fri Aug 10 04:29:08 CDT 2012

Hi Frameworks I was wondering if you had any tips for shooting and then for
the hand processing of expired black and white Tri-X film.
Like, does the film tend to want more or less light when it is old and was
not stored properly at all...
Does it take more time or less time in comparison to "good" film with the
developer? I wanted to push this film like 2 or 3 stops is that something
that is harder to achieve - pushing many stops - when the film is old?
Also it may have vinegar syndrome or that may just be a musty smell. Does
Reversal or Prints stock get vinegar syndrome - does it spread to reels and
cameras and then to other film?
That is a lot - any tips on any of it would be fun.
xKat

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> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:30:34 +0200
> Subject: [Frameworks] Standish Lawder
> ** **
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> Dear all,****
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> Unfortunately I lost contacts to Standish Lawder earlier this year upon
> his move to ****Petaluma****. The supposedly new phone number I find does
> not work. Can anybody, please, help? Offline preferred.****
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> Thanks!!!!****
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> From: Rory Brosius <rikimaru75 at hotmail.com>
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> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 10:45:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Marantz PMD201 LA
> Hey brother. Did you see if PPECS at IC still has any? Try emailing Phil
> if you haven't yet.
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> Hope all is well!
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> Rory
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> On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:04 PM, "Santi Vernetti" <santivernetti at gmail.com>
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> No luck!  Thanks anyway everyone!
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> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org> wrote:
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>> Maybe USC School of Cinematic Arts sound department still has some.  They
>> did in the 1990s; might have trashed them by now, but who knows?
>>
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>> On 8/7/12 11:28 AM, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
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>> > You wouldn't believe the number of calls I have got from people who want
>> 201s
>> > and 202s.  They were disposable units... folks used them and threw
>> them away
>> > and now they are all thrown away.
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>> I suspect Martel, purveyors of tape
>> > equipment to the Nixon White House,
>> has a cache of the things.  They use them
>> > as platforms for building
>> surveillance recorders.  They are not cheap and not
>> > easy to work
>> > with.
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Camera In The Fridge
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> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:25:05 -0700
> Subject: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
>  >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
>
> Ken
> www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com  (Academic)
> www.crookedbeauty.com  (Public)
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> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:54:54 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> Look into Minneapolis' processing and such: http://filmvideoservices.net
>
> I re-wrote Kim's website and she is very busy this summer with transfers
> and processing....
>
> -Jason
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>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
> kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>  >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
>> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
>> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
>> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
>> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
>>
>> Ken
>> www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
>> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com  (Academic)
>> www.crookedbeauty.com  (Public)
>> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
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> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:55:40 -0400
> Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental Media Congress
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
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> From: Bernard Roddy
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>  >
> I wish I knew what Halter said about institutionalization.
>
> You can find out. Most of the audio from the congress is available for
> streaming or download online:
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> http://www.experimentalmediacongress.org/
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> best
> Chris
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> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:43:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Direct Animation/Handmade film resources
> I highly recommend:
>
> http://handmadecinema.com/
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> Doesn't provide "practical" information (i.e. "how to" stuff), but is
> a rich resource of information about handmade cinema. And fun to use.
>
> Best,
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Walley
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> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM, eric stewart <e.l.j.stewart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey Frameworkers,
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> > I am building a wiki for an upcoming series of workshops
> > (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Elements_of_Image_Making).  I'm
> developing
> > a list of links to external information/education resources pertaining to
> > Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing, DIY filmmaking or
> anything
> > just plain fascinating.  If you have any suggestions for things i should
> > incorporate I would love to hear them!
> >
> > Thanks so much!  And for those of you in the Bay Area please join us at
> > Noisebridge Sunday August 26th at 2pm, for our introductory workshop to
> > Elements of Image Making. Free & Awesome open education, see you there!
> >
> > -Eric Stewart
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> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:41:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> Thanks ken! I will definitely include it in my list of resources.
>
> -Eric
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
> kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
>> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
>> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
>> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
>> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
>>
>> Ken
>> www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
>> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com  (Academic)
>> www.crookedbeauty.com  (Public)
>> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
>>
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