[Frameworks] hand processing expired Tri-X
katherine Bauer
kittylitterxox at gmail.com
Fri Aug 10 13:31:09 CDT 2012
Thanks Scott! I was going to hand process as reversal though...
so for the vinegar syndrome - you think I would know for sure it was
vinegar - very pungent...it is sort of a questionable smell...and I maybe
don't have the best sense of smell. People I am around right now...I have
them smell the film and they are not overwhelmingly like this is vinegar -
its the same - maybe vinegar maybe must. so would you say probably
must...because yea ifs it vinegar I guess I should just toss it...
so it seems like you are implying that after running tests expired film
sometimes needs more light and less development time...a slower developer.
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9 message 7
> Hi,
>
> In regards to the handmade resources, I would would just like to point you
> in the directions of my Tumblr site:
>
> http://scratchatopia.tumblr.com/.
>
> I'm trying to build as many links and tools as possible,
>
> best,
>
>
>
> Steven Woloshen
> http://scratchatopia.tumblr.com/
>
>
> > From: frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > Subject: FrameWorks Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9
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> > 4. Hand Processing Resource (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
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> > 6. Experimental Media Congress (Chris Kennedy)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:30:34 +0200
> > From: "Ingo Petzke" <ingo at petzke.biz>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Standish Lawder
> > To: "'Experimental Film Discussion List'"
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> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately I lost contacts to Standish Lawder earlier this year upon
> his
> > move to Petaluma. The supposedly new phone number I find does not work.
> Can
> > anybody, please, help? Offline preferred.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ingo
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> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 10:45:52 -0700
> > From: Rory Brosius <rikimaru75 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Marantz PMD201 LA
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> > Hey brother. Did you see if PPECS at IC still has any? Try emailing Phil
> if you haven't yet.
> >
> > Hope all is well!
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:04 PM, "Santi Vernetti" <santivernetti at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > No luck! Thanks anyway everyone!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org>
> wrote:
> > > Maybe USC School of Cinematic Arts sound department still has some.
> They
> > > did in the 1990s; might have trashed them by now, but who knows?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/7/12 11:28 AM, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You wouldn't believe the number of calls I have got from people who
> want
> > > 201s
> > > > and 202s. They were disposable units... folks used them and threw
> > > them away
> > > > and now they are all thrown away.
> > >
> > > I suspect Martel, purveyors of tape
> > > > equipment to the Nixon White House,
> > > has a cache of the things. They use them
> > > > as platforms for building
> > > surveillance recorders. They are not cheap and not
> > > > easy to work
> > > > with.
> > > -s-cott
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:57:39 -0400
> > From: David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Camera In The Fridge
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> > WWHHD
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> >
> > (What would Helen Hill do?)
> >
> > :-)
> >
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:25:05 -0700
> > From: Ken Paul Rosenthal <kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> > To: Frameworks Postings <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> >
> > >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!Hi
> Eric,Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htmKenwww.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/www.crookedbeautythefilm.com(Academic)
> www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:54:54 +0800
> > From: Jason Stauffacher <jasonstauffacher at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAHoDt+bRM12sE4=RZYDSYy8-xJSzPUj5J99Wc-k2AsOn_=LF+g at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > Look into Minneapolis' processing and such: http://filmvideoservices.net
> >
> > I re-wrote Kim's website and she is very busy this summer with transfers
> > and processing....
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
> > kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
> > > resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film,
> HandProcessing,
> > > DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
> > > suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
> > > http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
> > >
> > > Ken
> > > www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
> > > www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
> > > www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
> > > www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
> > >
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:55:40 -0400
> > From: Chris Kennedy <chris at signaltoground.com>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental Media Congress
> > To: <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID: <CC49399C.1D5BC%chris at signaltoground.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > From: Bernard Roddy
> >
> > >
> > I wish I knew what Halter said about institutionalization.
> >
> > You can find out. Most of the audio from the congress is available for
> > streaming or download online:
> >
> > http://www.experimentalmediacongress.org/
> >
> > best
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:43:11 -0400
> > From: Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Direct Animation/Handmade film resources
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAGc7gCfa=-Fy-JTzu_2u3QNzzd9nW+SSznBWcS61eCu9SmGcGw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I highly recommend:
> >
> > http://handmadecinema.com/
> >
> > Doesn't provide "practical" information (i.e. "how to" stuff), but is
> > a rich resource of information about handmade cinema. And fun to use.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jonathan
> >
> > Jonathan Walley
> > Associate Professor
> > Department of Cinema
> > Denison University
> > walleyj at denison.edu
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM, eric stewart <e.l.j.stewart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hey Frameworkers,
> > >
> > > I am building a wiki for an upcoming series of workshops
> > > (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Elements_of_Image_Making). I'm
> developing
> > > a list of links to external information/education resources pertaining
> to
> > > Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing, DIY filmmaking or
> anything
> > > just plain fascinating. If you have any suggestions for things i should
> > > incorporate I would love to hear them!
> > >
> > > Thanks so much! And for those of you in the Bay Area please join us at
> > > Noisebridge Sunday August 26th at 2pm, for our introductory workshop to
> > > Elements of Image Making. Free & Awesome open education, see you there!
> > >
> > > -Eric Stewart
> > >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:41:42 -0700
> > From: eric stewart <e.l.j.stewart at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CA+v_eZhW6vjgvo+g-GtG8r6Haw_1JzD3D-BFf4SYksZbyu=NfA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Thanks ken! I will definitely include it in my list of resources.
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
> > kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
> > > resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film,
> HandProcessing,
> > > DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
> > > suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
> > > http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
> > >
> > > Ken
> > > www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
> > > www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
> > > www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
> > > www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
> > >
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Chris Lynn <lynnchristopher at yahoo.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 12:31:33 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] new release from Chris H Lynn
> Hello Frameworkers,
> Chris H Lynn here-
> for those who may be interested
> I have a few new releases in the audio/visual world-
> I have been posting a number of my films shot in China between 2008-2012-
> most of them were inspired by Seventeenth Century Chinese landscape
> Painting recreated on woodblocks-
>
> http://modisti.com/12/2012/08/09/peoples-park-reverie-by-chris-h-lynn/
> http://vimeo.com/46119865
> http://vimeo.com/40814158
> I also have a new audio release on the electronic musik label based in the
> UK-
>
>
> http://electronicmusik.wordpress.com/2012/07/15/latest-release-from-chris-lynn-on-electronic-musik-free-download/
> All the best,
> Chris
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/9/12, steven woloshen <swoloshen at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: steven woloshen <swoloshen at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9 message 7
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Thursday, August 9, 2012, 1:23 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> In regards to the handmade resources, I would would just like to point you
> in the directions of my Tumblr site:
>
> http://scratchatopia.tumblr.com/.
>
> I'm trying to build as many links and tools as possible,
>
> best,
>
>
>
> Steven Woloshen
> http://scratchatopia.tumblr.com/
>
>
> > From: frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > Subject: FrameWorks Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9
> > To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 12:01:07 -0500
> >
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> > Today's Topics:
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> > 1. Standish Lawder (Ingo Petzke)
> > 2. Re: Marantz PMD201 LA (Rory Brosius)
> > 3. Re: 16mm Camera In The Fridge (David Tetzlaff)
> > 4. Hand Processing Resource (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
> > 5. Re: Hand Processing Resource (Jason Stauffacher)
> > 6. Experimental Media Congress (Chris Kennedy)
> > 7. Re: Direct Animation/Handmade film resources (Jonathan Walley)
> > 8. Re: Hand Processing Resource (eric stewart)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:30:34 +0200
> > From: "Ingo Petzke" <ingo at petzke.biz>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Standish Lawder
> > To: "'Experimental Film Discussion List'"
> > <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID: <8F6F26A65C5846C48805E973F0ACB0F6 at PetzkeNB>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately I lost contacts to Standish Lawder earlier this year upon
> his
> > move to Petaluma. The supposedly new phone number I find does not work.
> Can
> > anybody, please, help? Offline preferred.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 10:45:52 -0700
> > From: Rory Brosius <rikimaru75 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Marantz PMD201 LA
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Cc: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID: <SNT401-EAS2300EA18157568BBF9FA002DFCD0 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hey brother. Did you see if PPECS at IC still has any? Try emailing Phil
> if you haven't yet.
> >
> > Hope all is well!
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:04 PM, "Santi Vernetti" <santivernetti at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > No luck! Thanks anyway everyone!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org>
> wrote:
> > > Maybe USC School of Cinematic Arts sound department still has some.
> They
> > > did in the 1990s; might have trashed them by now, but who knows?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/7/12 11:28 AM, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You wouldn't believe the number of calls I have got from people who
> want
> > > 201s
> > > > and 202s. They were disposable units... folks used them and threw
> > > them away
> > > > and now they are all thrown away.
> > >
> > > I suspect Martel, purveyors of tape
> > > > equipment to the Nixon White House,
> > > has a cache of the things. They use them
> > > > as platforms for building
> > > surveillance recorders. They are not cheap and not
> > > > easy to work
> > > > with.
> > > -s-cott
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > FrameWorks
> > > > mailing
> > > > list
> > > FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:57:39 -0400
> > From: David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Camera In The Fridge
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID: <CCEBF78F-201C-481E-9AC0-16EE191E23FE at gmail.com>
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> > WWHHD
> >
> >
> > (What would Helen Hill do?)
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:25:05 -0700
> > From: Ken Paul Rosenthal <kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> > To: Frameworks Postings <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID: <COL111-W4706EDE5B5D6D54094111BD3CD0 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!Hi
> Eric,Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htmKenwww.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/www.crookedbeautythefilm.com(Academic)
> www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:54:54 +0800
> > From: Jason Stauffacher <jasonstauffacher at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAHoDt+bRM12sE4=RZYDSYy8-xJSzPUj5J99Wc-k2AsOn_=LF+g at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Look into Minneapolis' processing and such: http://filmvideoservices.net
> >
> > I re-wrote Kim's website and she is very busy this summer with transfers
> > and processing....
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
> > kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
> > > resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film,
> HandProcessing,
> > > DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
> > > suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
> > > http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
> > >
> > > Ken
> > > www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
> > > www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
> > > www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
> > > www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > FrameWorks mailing list
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:55:40 -0400
> > From: Chris Kennedy <chris at signaltoground.com>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental Media Congress
> > To: <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID: <CC49399C.1D5BC%chris at signaltoground.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > From: Bernard Roddy
> >
> > >
> > I wish I knew what Halter said about institutionalization.
> >
> > You can find out. Most of the audio from the congress is available for
> > streaming or download online:
> >
> > http://www.experimentalmediacongress.org/
> >
> > best
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:43:11 -0400
> > From: Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Direct Animation/Handmade film resources
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAGc7gCfa=-Fy-JTzu_2u3QNzzd9nW+SSznBWcS61eCu9SmGcGw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I highly recommend:
> >
> > http://handmadecinema.com/
> >
> > Doesn't provide "practical" information (i.e. "how to" stuff), but is
> > a rich resource of information about handmade cinema. And fun to use.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jonathan
> >
> > Jonathan Walley
> > Associate Professor
> > Department of Cinema
> > Denison University
> > walleyj at denison.edu
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM, eric stewart <e.l.j.stewart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hey Frameworkers,
> > >
> > > I am building a wiki for an upcoming series of workshops
> > > (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Elements_of_Image_Making). I'm
> developing
> > > a list of links to external information/education resources pertaining
> to
> > > Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing, DIY filmmaking or
> anything
> > > just plain fascinating. If you have any suggestions for things i should
> > > incorporate I would love to hear them!
> > >
> > > Thanks so much! And for those of you in the Bay Area please join us at
> > > Noisebridge Sunday August 26th at 2pm, for our introductory workshop to
> > > Elements of Image Making. Free & Awesome open education, see you there!
> > >
> > > -Eric Stewart
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > FrameWorks mailing list
> > > FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:41:42 -0700
> > From: eric stewart <e.l.j.stewart at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CA+v_eZhW6vjgvo+g-GtG8r6Haw_1JzD3D-BFf4SYksZbyu=NfA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Thanks ken! I will definitely include it in my list of resources.
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
> > kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
> > > resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film,
> HandProcessing,
> > > DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
> > > suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
> > > http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
> > >
> > > Ken
> > > www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
> > > www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
> > > www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
> > > www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > FrameWorks mailing list
> > > FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: DOMINIC ANGERAME <dominicangerame at sbcglobal.net>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:07:22 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Retirement
> Thank all you that have shown support for and it has been a pleasure and
> sometimes a challenge working with all of you during the 33 years, Canyon's
> Board members emails are listed on the Canyon website and it is best to
> communicate with them directly since
> i have heard that emails sent to facebook, twitter and info at canyon cinema
> have been tampered with from friends of mine who have written letters of
> support. Marilyn Brakhage is seeking a fair retirement compensation
> package for. I fear that it will not happen.
> To me it seems to me that a take over has happened to the company. I quote
> from the Canyon bylaws below and may be seeking legal action, No five day
> notice was given and noshareholder, including myself was notified of this
> meeting and minutes of this July meeting have been sent to members nor
> recorded.
>
> Executive Director and Administrative Director
>
> The board of directors shall have the authority to hire an Executive
> Director and
> Administrative Director. Their duties shall be to manage the activities
> of, conduct the
> affairs of, and be responsible for the day to day operations of the
> corporation.
> Three of the directors shall form a quorum for the transaction of
> business. The board of
> directors may hold its meetings at such place or places as it may from
> time to time
> determine. All directors must be notified of the meetings five days in
> advance. Any
> shareholder shall be allowed to attend a meeting of the board of
> directors. Such a request
> for attending meetings must be received by Canyon
> Cinema, Inc. prior to a designated meeting. The minutes of each meeting
> shall be
> recorded and made available to the membership.
> Decisions at board meetings shall be made by a majority of votes. All
> votes at any such
> meeting shall be taken by ballot if so demanded by any board member
> present, but if
> no demand is made, the vote shall be taken by verbal assent or dissent.
> The President's
> duties may be performed by the Vice President, Secretary, or Chief
> Financial Officer in
> the absence of the
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* DOMINIC ANGERAME <dominicangerame at sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> *Sent:* Sun, August 5, 2012 4:09:09 PM
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Retirement
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> **
>
>
> Hi all I did not realize that a press release was published on Frameworks
> , nor did I approve nor authorize such a statement which was untrue
> published on the Canyon website. I was basically forced to resign and the
> press release came with the statement of termination immediately. In
> reality I was terminated without advance notice compensation, severance,
> etc. I am now in a position to seek retirement benefits from Social
> Security, which will not even be enough to pay my rent. I will be seeking
> unemployment and perhaps legal services. The press release on the Canyon
> Cinema website was published without my approval. I will have a position
> paper written soon once I can overcome my anger and disgust. I was
> dismissed without notice, compensation, nor reasons. This is to clarify the
> situation. Please do not email me at this address, please use my personal
> email dominic at cinemod.net I only check framework postings twice a year.
> The Canyon Board had not even approached me on this termination before I
> was notified on July 30th. There was a secret unnnounced Executive Meeting
> without my presence nor advance notice to our shareholders to terminate me
> after 33 years of service. However the Bd forced a former Bd member and
> employee to contact my ex wife who is fragile and sensitive about their
> concerns and accusations. A very unprofessional and inappropriate way of
> dealing with an employee and member for more than 30 years.
>
> Again do not contact me at this email address for I will be withdrawing
> from Frameworks shortly.
>
> The letter hand deivered to me stated
>
> ;
>
> "Notice of termination of the employment to Dominic Angerame
>
> Effective immediately your employment at will as Executive Director at
> Canyon Cinema is terminated.
>
> You must immediately turn in your keys, passcodes, equipment, bank cheques
> and any other corporation related items to the Board of Directors
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Board of Directors:
>
> Maia C Carpenter
> Nathaniel Dorsky
> Denah Johnson
> Dayna Plays
> Mark Toscano"
>
> I was then notified that I could not return to the office to pick up my
> personal items or films and they would be mailed back to me.
>
>
> Thanks for understanding and great working with all these years.
>
> Dominic Angerame
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: op <owen at thenowcorporation.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 03:38:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Retirement
> Shame on these people;
> Maia C Carpenter
> Nathaniel Dorsky
> Denah Johnson
> Dayna Plays
> Mark Toscano
>
>
> Owen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:07 AM, DOMINIC ANGERAME <
> dominicangerame at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Thank all you that have shown support for and it has been a pleasure and
> sometimes a challenge working with all of you during the 33 years, Canyon's
> Board members emails are listed on the Canyon website and it is best to
> communicate with them directly since
> i have heard that emails sent to facebook, twitter and info at canyon cinema
> have been tampered with from friends of mine who have written letters of
> support. Marilyn Brakhage is seeking a fair retirement compensation
> package for. I fear that it will not happen.
> To me it seems to me that a take over has happened to the company. I quote
> from the Canyon bylaws below and may be seeking legal action, No five day
> notice was given and noshareholder, including myself was notified of this
> meeting and minutes of this July meeting have been sent to members nor
> recorded.
>
> Executive Director and Administrative Director
>
> The board of directors shall have the authority to hire an Executive
> Director and
> Administrative Director. Their duties shall be to manage the activities
> of, conduct the
> affairs of, and be responsible for the day to day operations of the
> corporation.
> Three of the directors shall form a quorum for the transaction of
> business. The board of
> directors may hold its meetings at such place or places as it may from
> time to time
> determine. All directors must be notified of the meetings five days in
> advance. Any
> shareholder shall be allowed to attend a meeting of the board of
> directors. Such a request
> for attending meetings must be received by Canyon
> Cinema, Inc. prior to a designated meeting. The minutes of each meeting
> shall be
> recorded and made available to the membership.
> Decisions at board meetings shall be made by a majority of votes. All
> votes at any such
> meeting shall be taken by ballot if so demanded by any board member
> present, but if
> no demand is made, the vote shall be taken by verbal assent or dissent.
> The President's
> duties may be performed by the Vice President, Secretary, or Chief
> Financial Officer in
> the absence of the
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* DOMINIC ANGERAME <dominicangerame at sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> *Sent:* Sun, August 5, 2012 4:09:09 PM
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Retirement
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> **
>
>
> Hi all I did not realize that a press release was published on Frameworks
> , nor did I approve nor authorize such a statement which was untrue
> published on the Canyon website. I was basically forced to resign and the
> press release came with the statement of termination immediately. In
> reality I was terminated without advance notice compensation, severance,
> etc. I am now in a position to seek retirement benefits from Social
> Security, which will not even be enough to pay my rent. I will be seeking
> unemployment and perhaps legal services. The press release on the Canyon
> Cinema website was published without my approval. I will have a position
> paper written soon once I can overcome my anger and disgust. I was
> dismissed without notice, compensation, nor reasons. This is to clarify the
> situation. Please do not email me at this address, please use my personal
> email dominic at cinemod.net I only check framework postings twice a year.
> The Canyon Board had not even approached me on this termination before I
> was notified on July 30th. There was a secret unnnounced Executive Meeting
> without my presence nor advance notice to our shareholders to terminate me
> after 33 years of service. However the Bd forced a former Bd member and
> employee to contact my ex wife who is fragile and sensitive about their
> concerns and accusations. A very unprofessional and inappropriate way of
> dealing with an employee and member for more than 30 years.
>
> Again do not contact me at this email address for I will be withdrawing
> from Frameworks shortly.
>
> The letter hand deivered to me stated
>
> ;
>
> "Notice of termination of the employment to Dominic Angerame
>
> Effective immediately your employment at will as Executive Director at
> Canyon Cinema is terminated.
>
> You must immediately turn in your keys, passcodes, equipment, bank cheques
> and any other corporation related items to the Board of Directors
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Board of Directors:
>
> Maia C Carpenter
> Nathaniel Dorsky
> Denah Johnson
> Dayna Plays
> Mark Toscano"
>
> I was then notified that I could not return to the office to pick up my
> personal items or films and they would be mailed back to me.
>
>
> Thanks for understanding and great working with all these years.
>
> Dominic Angerame
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: katherine Bauer <kittylitterxox at gmail.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:29:08 -0700
> Subject: [Frameworks] shooting and hand processing expired film
> Hi Frameworks I was wondering if you had any tips for shooting and then
> for the hand processing of expired black and white Tri-X film.
> Like, does the film tend to want more or less light when it is old and was
> not stored properly at all...
> Does it take more time or less time in comparison to "good" film with the
> developer? I wanted to push this film like 2 or 3 stops is that something
> that is harder to achieve - pushing many stops - when the film is old?
> Also it may have vinegar syndrome or that may just be a musty smell. Does
> Reversal or Prints stock get vinegar syndrome - does it spread to reels and
> cameras and then to other film?
> That is a lot - any tips on any of it would be fun.
> xKat
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:01 AM, <frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com>wrote:
>
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>> 1. Standish Lawder (Ingo Petzke)
>> 2. Re: Marantz PMD201 LA (Rory Brosius)
>> 3. Re: 16mm Camera In The Fridge (David Tetzlaff)
>> 4. Hand Processing Resource (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
>> 5. Re: Hand Processing Resource (Jason Stauffacher)
>> 6. Experimental Media Congress (Chris Kennedy)
>> 7. Re: Direct Animation/Handmade film resources (Jonathan Walley)
>> 8. Re: Hand Processing Resource (eric stewart)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Ingo Petzke" <ingo at petzke.biz>
>> To: "'Experimental Film Discussion List'" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> >
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:30:34 +0200
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Standish Lawder
>> ** **
>>
>> Dear all,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Unfortunately I lost contacts to Standish Lawder earlier this year upon
>> his move to ****Petaluma****. The supposedly new phone number I find
>> does not work. Can anybody, please, help? Offline preferred.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks!!!!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ingo****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Rory Brosius <rikimaru75 at hotmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 10:45:52 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Marantz PMD201 LA
>> Hey brother. Did you see if PPECS at IC still has any? Try emailing Phil
>> if you haven't yet.
>>
>> Hope all is well!
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:04 PM, "Santi Vernetti" <santivernetti at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No luck! Thanks anyway everyone!
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe USC School of Cinematic Arts sound department still has some. They
>>> did in the 1990s; might have trashed them by now, but who knows?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/7/12 11:28 AM, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > You wouldn't believe the number of calls I have got from people who
>>> want
>>> 201s
>>> > and 202s. They were disposable units... folks used them and threw
>>> them away
>>> > and now they are all thrown away.
>>>
>>> I suspect Martel, purveyors of tape
>>> > equipment to the Nixon White House,
>>> has a cache of the things. They use them
>>> > as platforms for building
>>> surveillance recorders. They are not cheap and not
>>> > easy to work
>>> > with.
>>> -s-cott
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks
>>> > mailing
>>> > list
>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi
>>> > nfo/frameworks
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:57:39 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Camera In The Fridge
>> WWHHD
>>
>>
>> (What would Helen Hill do?)
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Ken Paul Rosenthal <kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com>
>> To: Frameworks Postings <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:25:05 -0700
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
>> >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
>> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
>> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
>> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
>> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
>>
>> Ken
>> www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
>> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
>> www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
>> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Jason Stauffacher <jasonstauffacher at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:54:54 +0800
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
>> Look into Minneapolis' processing and such: http://filmvideoservices.net
>>
>> I re-wrote Kim's website and she is very busy this summer with transfers
>> and processing....
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
>> kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
>>> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
>>> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
>>> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
>>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
>>> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
>>> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
>>> www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
>>> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks mailing list
>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Chris Kennedy <chris at signaltoground.com>
>> To: <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:55:40 -0400
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Experimental Media Congress
>>
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> From: Bernard Roddy
>>
>> >
>> I wish I knew what Halter said about institutionalization.
>>
>> You can find out. Most of the audio from the congress is available for
>> streaming or download online:
>>
>> http://www.experimentalmediacongress.org/
>>
>> best
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:43:11 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Direct Animation/Handmade film resources
>> I highly recommend:
>>
>> http://handmadecinema.com/
>>
>> Doesn't provide "practical" information (i.e. "how to" stuff), but is
>> a rich resource of information about handmade cinema. And fun to use.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Jonathan Walley
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Cinema
>> Denison University
>> walleyj at denison.edu
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM, eric stewart <e.l.j.stewart at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hey Frameworkers,
>> >
>> > I am building a wiki for an upcoming series of workshops
>> > (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Elements_of_Image_Making). I'm
>> developing
>> > a list of links to external information/education resources pertaining
>> to
>> > Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing, DIY filmmaking or
>> anything
>> > just plain fascinating. If you have any suggestions for things i should
>> > incorporate I would love to hear them!
>> >
>> > Thanks so much! And for those of you in the Bay Area please join us at
>> > Noisebridge Sunday August 26th at 2pm, for our introductory workshop to
>> > Elements of Image Making. Free & Awesome open education, see you there!
>> >
>> > -Eric Stewart
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: eric stewart <e.l.j.stewart at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:41:42 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing Resource
>> Thanks ken! I will definitely include it in my list of resources.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <
>> kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >I'm developing a list of links to external information/education
>>> resources pertaining to Direct Animation, Handmade Film, HandProcessing,
>>> DIY filmmaking or anything just plain fascinating. If you have any
>>> suggestions for things i should incorporate I would love to hear them!
>>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> Please see my comprehensive article on hand processing:
>>> http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/antidote.htm
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
>>> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
>>> www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
>>> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:25:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] shooting and hand processing expired film
> Shoot a test, process a test. Just take fifty feet or so and run it and
> see what it's like. You may need to open an extra stop or so.
>
> When you develop the test, look at the edges of the film where it has not
> been exposed. Compare with some other processed negative... it should be
> clear and not grey.
>
> If it is grey and fogged, add some benzotriaole to your developer. This
> will reduce the effective film speed but it will also reduce the fog.
> Photographer's Formulary has the stuff in stock.
>
> Vinegar syndrome is death.... it is a very distinctive odor and not like
> a musty smell. The acidic gas produced will cause other film to go vinegar
> if it's stored nearby. I have never seen vinegar syndrome on old unexposed
> negative but I suppose it's possible.
> --scott
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