[Frameworks] ektachrome 100d r.i.p.
Mark Toscano
fiddybop at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 13 15:25:19 CST 2012
I did. This is what the Kodak rep told me. If I hear anything further, I can post it here.
Mark Toscano
On Dec 13, 2012, at 11:38 AM, carlileb at aol.com wrote:
> I find it hard to believe that they will make more, unless there's a few frozen rolls around somewhere. Who said this?
>
> BTW, who's going to the Jonas Mekas Birthday Party at Anthology?
>
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> "It is confirmed, as you all know by now, that Kodak has discontinued Ektachrome. According to Beverly, our rep in L.A., the existing supply is already sold out, but more orders will continue to be taken. Anybody trying to order it now will be told the stock is on backorder, and in January they'll produce more to fulfill all of those orders. This is in part an attempt to be fair and prevent a few individuals from snapping up all the remaining supply and hoarding or reselling it at exorbitant rates. But I would order NOW if I were you."
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> carlileb at aol.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: zach vonjoo <zuhvj at yahoo.com>
> To: frameworks <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2012 8:59 am
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] ektachrome 100d r.i.p.
>
> It is indeed very distressing that there will be no more reversal color film in the world. I wonder what it would take to manufacture a new stock independently, alla Impossible Project. Any ideas?
>
> Wondering, does all ektachrome use the E-6 process? Curious about using old expired film. I don't usually chance this, as I have had poor results in the past, but seeing as how stock is going to be limited...
>
> From a friend-of-a-friend in the know:
>
> "It is confirmed, as you all know by now, that Kodak has discontinued Ektachrome. According to Beverly, our rep in L.A., the existing supply is already sold out, but more orders will continue to be taken. Anybody trying to order it now will be told the stock is on backorder, and in January they'll produce more to fulfill all of those orders. This is in part an attempt to be fair and prevent a few individuals from snapping up all the remaining supply and hoarding or reselling it at exorbitant rates. But I would order NOW if I were you."
>
> Time to finish up those projects.
>
> Best,
> Zach
>
>
>
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> --- On Wed, 12/12/12, frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com <frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com> wrote:
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> 1. Re: Call for Submissions: Black Box @ Edinburgh International
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> 2. Re: flickering (John Woods)
> 3. Torture Project (jaime cleeland)
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:48:56 -0500
> From: Walter Ungerer <wu at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Call for Submissions: Black Box @ Edinburgh
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> Kim,
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> Could I get a fee waiver from you for the EIFF?
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> Take care,
> Walter Ungerer
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> On 08December/2012 9:13 AM, Kim Knowles wrote:
> > Dear Frameworkers,
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> From: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] flickering
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> In my mind a strobe effect and a flickering projection are two very different things.
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> If you want a strobe effect then you need to film the scene with a strobe light.
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> If you want your film presented with a flickering projection then you will need to use an off speed projector and be willing to do other tinkering with the mechanics of the projector like modifying the shutter blades.
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> From: franco base <frenk.calza at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:29:19 PM
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> Hi.
> Strobo light is a good idea but it's dont' work for outdoor shoot.
>
> John sorry but i dont' understand what you suggest about speed.
> If a I shoot and projected, for example, at 6fps,
> you think i can have some flicker (strobo image)?
>
> Thanks
>
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> 2012/12/6 Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
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> >How about shooting using strobe lights? Getting exposure may be difficult. Just shoot normal speed as usual. They used to do it in Music videos back in the 8os.
> >Like the scene in Alien when Ripley faces the creature.... Amazing that that DP never shot another feature.
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> From: Walter Ungerer <wu at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Error message
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> Sorry, everyone about an inadvertently sent email to this listserv,
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> Kim,
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> Could I get a fee waiver from you for the EIFF?
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> Take care,
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> From: Paul Krimmer <paul at krimmer.at> (by way of Pip Chodorov)
> Subject: [Frameworks] ektachrome 100d r.i.p.
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> kodak quits the production of the last colour reversal film
> EKTACHROME 100D in s8, 16 and 35.
>
> havent found an official statement, but my informations are regarding
> to the
> schmalfilm-magazine:<http://www.schmalfilm-online.de/news/Kodak+stellt+Produktion+des+Ektachrome+100D+ein/1304>
> http://www.schmalfilm-online.de/news/Kodak+stellt+Produktion+des+Ektachrome+100D+ein/1304
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> sad day.
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> From: Jason Halprin <jihalprin at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] flickering
> To: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>, Experimental Film Discussion List
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> How about projecting through a fan? Or re-wiring your projector motor so that there is a dimmer switch in the circuit?
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> -Jason Halprin
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> ________________________________
> From: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] flickering
>
>
> In my mind a strobe effect and a flickering projection are two very different things.
>
> If you want a strobe effect then you need to film the scene with a strobe light.
>
>
> If you want your film presented with a flickering projection then you will need to use an off speed projector and be willing to do other tinkering with the mechanics of the projector like modifying the shutter blades.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: franco base <frenk.calza at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 12:29:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] flickering
>
>
> Hi.
> Strobo light is a good idea but it's dont' work for outdoor shoot.
>
> John sorry but i dont' understand what you suggest about speed.
> If a I shoot and projected, for example, at 6fps,
> you think i can have some flicker (strobo image)?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> 2012/12/6 Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
>
>
> >
> >
> >How about shooting using strobe lights? Getting exposure may be difficult. Just shoot normal speed as usual. They used to do it in Music videos back in the 8os.
> >Like the scene in Alien when Ripley faces the creature.... Amazing that that DP never shot another feature.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] flickering
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> If you photograph with a strobe, what happens is that not every frame gets
> exposed. That is, let's say you're shooting 24 fps and you shoot with a
> strobe that is firing right at 12 fps and happens to be timed so the shutter
> is fully open at all times. Every other frame is exposed, and when you
> project the film you get flashing.
>
> Now, that flashing doesn't look anything like a strobe light, because you
> are showing each frame for a full 1/24 sec. It also doesn't look the same
> as slowing the frame rate down either.
>
> In real life the camera is usually drifting in speed a bit and the strobe
> is drifting in speed a bit and they are never quite synched, so there is
> a slow variation going on as well. You might like it, you might not.
> --scott
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