[Frameworks] Please help
Adam Hyman
adam at lafilmforum.org
Wed Jul 25 18:43:04 CDT 2012
What? A community includes humor; that is one of the things that makes it a
community. True, irony & sarcasm are often lost in email & on websites, and
maybe you are being ironic or sarcastic in your reply (and the previous
person with a similar note), but I strongly feel that it is OK to have one
thread with some humor that goes on for a couple of days! So, Elizabeth,
Simonetta, and Fred, I personally disagree with you on this one.
And I think that this is in no way a hoax, since the original post wasn¹t
trying to ³pull over² anything on anyone. It was obviously a joke.
In a day or two this thread too will pass, and we can return to an email
group consisting of nothing but deathly earnestness and seriousness.
(And for a bit of insight as to why the original wasn¹t a hoax Kenneth
Anger is still alive in corporeal form in Los Angeles. And of course, the
signature at the end for money was to David. A parody of notes that all of
you have seen.)
My two cents and best regards to all,
Adam
On 7/25/12 1:53 PM, "elizabeth mcmahon" <elizmcmahon at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm with Fred. Please cease and desist on Frameworks and if you must, set up
> your own experimental hoax humor listserv.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>>
>> From: Tim Halloran <televisual at hotmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Please help
>>
>>
>> Yawn.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:56 AM, "Alex" <alex.mccarron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Fred, thank you for pointing out that this is a hoax. I have a rare
>>> vitamin deficiency that affects some of my cognitive functions and my
>>> ability to process visual information called Iron-y Blindness and you can
>>> only imagine how difficult it is to be a fan of experimental films and
>>> indeed engage in intellectual conversation in general without being able to
>>> get jokes.
>>> >
>>> > So rare and made up is my illness that there are no foundations currently
>>> funding research for a cure and I've had to start my own. So far no one has
>>> been taking me seriously (which I find offensive because I am forced by
>>> nature to always be serious) and I am left alone in this world constantly
>>> writing out checks to bring Ken Anger back to corporeality.
>>> >
>>> > I'm glad to find someone willing to stand up for people like me and I was
>>> wondering if you would interested in sending me a large sum of money so that
>>> I may develop a sense of humor and stop falling victim to these schoolyard
>>> bullies on the internet.
>>> >
>>> > Always,
>>> > Alexander
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:15 PM, "Fred Camper" <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>>> >> David,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I really dislike hoaxes that
>>>> attempt
>>>> >> humor on lists such as FrameWorks. First of all, some almost always take
>>>> >> them seriously, as has apparently already happened at least once.
>>>> Second,
>>>> >> life is too short for such "creativity." I trust I'm not the only one
>>>> >> among the many hundreds on this list who do not appreciate seeing all
>>>> >> these meaningless emails. Finally, this particular hoax seems to me to
be
>>>> >> insulting to the work of a genuinely great filmmaker. Hell, you even
>>>> >> misspelled Crowley's first name.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Fred Camper
>>>> >> Chicago
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