[Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

[gregg biermann]

The other thing here is that George's position on the mainstream 
commercial cinema was not purely oppositional -- that there is also some 
sense of homage to it in his work.  You could even argue that he was 
alienated to some degree when it came to the avant-garde film community 
-- even as it embraced him. I remember in one of his diary pieces he 
documents a little lecture by Ken Jacobs at SFAI that he attended and he 
ends up walking out with Ken yelling after him "George, Come back 
here!"  Then he ends up at some party in Hollywood sitting on a couch 
with Nicolas Cage (or some star like that)  and he ends up feeling 
uncomfortably out of place there as well. Cannot remember the title -- 
sometime around 1991.
G


On 2/29/2012 8:43 AM, scott at financialcleansing.com wrote:
> *Sorry, Fred, here I disagree with you.*
> *
> *
> *I'm sure the Hollywood folks could have added many other people (many 
> of them worthy) to the list of those recognized in that memorial 
> moment, too. But that three of those recognized--George Kuchar, Tim 
> Hetherington, and Ricky Leacock--are makers who worked outside 
> Hollywood, as independents, is certainly cause for celebration. It 
> means that, in a however limited way, independent filmmakers are being 
> recognized more broadly, as they so rightly deserve. That Saint Mark 
> Toscano, working at the Academy, has seen to the preservation not only 
> of Brakhage's films but Robert Nelson's, and the work of so many other 
> independents is part of that same recognition.*
>
> *Like it or not, the Academy is one of few organizations devoted to 
> cinema that has the clout to provide broad recognition, and I was 
> thrilled to see their images on my TV screen on primetime Sunday 
> night. Kudos to the Academy for recognizing Kuchar, Hetherington, and 
> Leacock.*
> *
> *
> *Scott*
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars
>     From: "Fred Camper" <f at fredcamper.com <mailto:f at fredcamper.com>>
>     Date: Tue, February 28, 2012 7:44 pm
>     To: "Experimental Film Discussion List"
>     <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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>
>     > Yes ­ Owen Land, Ricky Leacock, and Jordan Belson as well.
>
>     Oh, why not Hollis Frampton, and Stan Brakhage, and Gregory J.
>     Markopoulos? Or Oscars to Ernie Gehr and Bruce Baillie, who are
>     among the
>     living?
>
>     Or, one might ask, how likely is any of that?
>
>     In all seriousness, am I the only one who finds the many posts in this
>     thread a little bizarre?
>
>     I thought it was nice when Brakhage was briefly acknowlwedged in
>     the Oscar
>     montage, and it's nice when other experimental filmmakers are
>     acknowledged
>     too. But when we start talking about awards, have we forgotten
>     what the
>     Oscars are, and what values they represent, and how different the
>     values
>     of avant-garde film are? Why should we expect, or even want, more
>     than a
>     passing nod from the Academy as it is currently constituted? It's
>     really
>     great that the money from the Oscar-cast goes to film preservation,
>     including of avant-garde work. Is there any reason to expect more?
>
>     Fred Camper
>     Chicago
>
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