[Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 24, Issue 16

Sat May 19 14:43:53 CDT 2012

Hi Jonas,

I'd like to make another post in the forum, if I may. I'm looking for any
old 8mm or 16mm home movies, or undeveloped/expired 8mm/16mm film. If
anyone has any available to send to me (I will happily pay any shipping
costs), or knows someone who does, they can email me at
d.alexanderboos at gmail.com

Thanks so much for your time.
Daniel

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:00 PM, <frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com>wrote:

> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to
>        frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>        https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>        frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>        frameworks-owner at jonasmekasfilms.com
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..."
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: Elf 16mm projector (Gawthrop, Rob)
>   2. Film leaders (Matt Soar)
>   3. Re: Film leaders (graeme hogg)
>   4. Re: Fotokem LA? (Christopher Harris)
>   5. Re: Fotokem LA? (Christopher Harris)
>   6. Re: Film leaders (nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net)
>   7. film analysis (Gene Youngblood)
>   8. film analysis again (Gene Youngblood)
>   9. Re: film analysis (Carlileb at aol.com)
>  10. Re: film analysis again (John MacKay)
>  11. Re: film analysis (Myron Ort)
>  12. Re: film analysis (Myron Ort)
>  13. Re: film analysis (Myron Ort)
>  14. Re: film analysis (Tim Halloran)
>  15. Re: film analysis again (Jonathan Walley)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gawthrop, Rob" <Rob.Gawthrop at falmouth.ac.uk>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>,
> Kevin Timmins <on-one-2 at hotmail.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 20:06:02 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Elf 16mm projector
>  Bought a set from them recently, I’m sure it’s what you want and they
> despatch promptly.
>
> Rob
>
>
> On 18/05/2012 13:52, "Kevin Timmins" <on-one-2 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Thanks!
>
> I'm located in the UK, ideally it would be great to find some from around
> here. I found this:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELF-16mm-Cine-Projector-4-Drive-Belt-Set-Motor-Rewind-Both-Spool-Arm-Belts-/150808145860?pt=UK_Photography_VintagePhotography_VintagePhotoAccessories&hash=item231cddafc4#ht_1802wt_1026
>
> Are these all the belts I need?
> Best
> Kevin
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 05:33:45 -0700
> From: info at 40frames.org
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Elf 16mm projector
>
>
> You're missing the round shutter pulley belt. The two grooves in the
> pulley is to switch film speed or 50/60 Hz.
>
> >From the state of the main drive belt, I'd replace that as well. You mind
> as well replace all belts with a whole new set, including the
> feed and take-up.
>
> Where are you located?
>
> Richard Pattchetts has a large collection of new-old-stock Eiki belts. He
> is located in Michigan USA.
> http://www.16mmdirectory.org/search?q=patchetts
>
>
> Alain
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Kevin Timmins <on-one-2 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Frameworks,
>
> I purchased an Elf projector some time ago and I discovered that it was
> missing some belts (two I think). Here is a link to some pictures:
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/73172807@N06/?uploaded=2&magic_cookie=4bf21de9f77e9f1a52dbdb154e759a2b<
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/73172807%40N06/?uploaded=2&magic_cookie=4bf21de9f77e9f1a52dbdb154e759a2b>
>
>
> Can anyone tell me what belts I need to find/ where to get them.
>
> All the best and thanks in advance!
> Kevin
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the intended
> recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please inform us
> immediately and then delete it. Unless it specifically states otherwise
> this email does not form part of a contract.
>
>
>
> Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily represent those of University College Falmouth. You should
> carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. University
> College Falmouth accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may be
> caused by software viruses
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Matt Soar <mattsoar at gmail.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:08:19 -0400
> Subject: [Frameworks] Film leaders
> Hi folks,
>
> I have started using 'found' commercial film leaders in my work, and
> am wondering if list members can point me to any existing films where
> the maker has used a comparable approach. I'm also fascinated with the
> purposes of these 'paratextual' markings (eg 'SMTP'; 'end of picture';
> 'finish'; but also handwritten film titles and markings, etc) and am
> therefore very keen to find scholarly or technical writing about
> commercial film leaders. I've trawled through a few library databases
> without much luck.
>
> Thanks in advance for any tips. I'll compile any responses and post
> them back to frameworks.
>
> All best wishes,
>
>
> Matt Soar
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Matt Soar
> Associate Professor
> Communication Studies
> Concordia University
>
>
> http://coms.concordia.ca/faculty/soar.html
> http://www.korsakow.org
> http://www.a-r-c.ca
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: graeme hogg <graemehogg at irational.org>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:27:22 +0100 (BST)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film leaders
>
>
> 'Your Film and The Lab' by L.Bernard Happe in the Focal Press 'Media
> Manual' series has good stuff about this.
>
>
>  Hi folks,
>>
>> I have started using 'found' commercial film leaders in my work, and
>> am wondering if list members can point me to any existing films where
>> the maker has used a comparable approach. I'm also fascinated with the
>> purposes of these 'paratextual' markings (eg 'SMTP'; 'end of picture';
>> 'finish'; but also handwritten film titles and markings, etc) and am
>> therefore very keen to find scholarly or technical writing about
>> commercial film leaders. I've trawled through a few library databases
>> without much luck.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any tips. I'll compile any responses and post
>> them back to frameworks.
>>
>> All best wishes,
>>
>>
>> Matt Soar
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Matt Soar
>> Associate Professor
>> Communication Studies
>> Concordia University
>>
>>
>> http://coms.concordia.ca/**faculty/soar.html<http://coms.concordia.ca/faculty/soar.html>
>> http://www.korsakow.org
>> http://www.a-r-c.ca
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>
>>
>
> --
>
> http://www.bristol-channel.**org/skomer<http://www.bristol-channel.org/skomer>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Christopher Harris <charris91 at hotmail.com>
> To: <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 20:32:12 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fotokem LA?
>  I'm looking for a 10-bit uncompressed 1920x1080 transfer.  Thanks for
> the other recommendations.
>
> CH
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:01:05 -0700
> From: info at 40frames.org
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fotokem LA?
>
>
> How about Cinelab (New Bedford, MA) or Alpha Cine (Seattle). Both do fine
> B/W processing and printing.
>
> As for your uncompressed Quicktime, are you talking Apple ProRes HQ
> scanned 1920x1080 or 2K (pillarbox)?
>
> Alain
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Christopher Harris <
> charris91 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hello all,
>
> I need some lab work done and I'm wondering if anyone has any feedback to
> report about Fotokem in LA (or New York for that matter).
>
> I need 16mm b/w negative processing, work printing and uncompressed
> quicktime transfer.
>
> Thanks for any and all feedback about Fotokem.
>
> CH
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
>
> --
> 40 FRAMES
> Alain LeTourneau
> Pam Minty
>
> 40 FRAMES
> 5232 North Williams Avenue
> Portland, Oregon 97217
> USA
>
> +1 503 231 6548
> www.40frames.org
> www.16mmdirectory.org
> www.emptyquarterfilm.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Christopher Harris <charris91 at hotmail.com>
> To: <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 20:36:09 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fotokem LA?
>  Thanks to everyone for all of the lab recommendations and feedback about
> Fotokem.
>
> CH
>
> ------------------------------
> From: charris91 at hotmail.com
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:56:31 +0000
> Subject: [Frameworks] Fotokem LA?
>
>  Hello all,
>
> I need some lab work done and I'm wondering if anyone has any feedback to
> report about Fotokem in LA (or New York for that matter).
>
> I need 16mm b/w negative processing, work printing and uncompressed
> quicktime transfer.
>
> Thanks for any and all feedback about Fotokem.
>
> CH
>
> _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:11:32 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Film leaders
> You should watch Guy Sherwin's film At the Academy. Wilhelm and Birgit
> Hein also made a whole film like this,
>
> Nicky.
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Soar <mattsoar at gmail.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Sent: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:08
> Subject: [Frameworks] Film leaders
>
>  Hi folks,
>
> I have started using 'found' commercial film leaders in my work, and
> am wondering if list members can point me to any existing films where
> the maker has used a comparable approach. I'm also fascinated with the
> purposes of these 'paratextual' markings (eg 'SMTP'; 'end of picture';
> 'finish'; but also handwritten film titles and markings, etc) and am
> therefore very keen to find scholarly or technical writing about
> commercial film leaders. I've trawled through a few library databases
> without much luck.
>
> Thanks in advance for any tips. I'll compile any responses and post
> them back to frameworks.
>
> All best wishes,
>
>
> Matt Soar
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Matt Soar
> Associate Professor
> Communication Studies
> Concordia University
>
> http://coms.concordia.ca/faculty/soar.htmlhttp://www.korsakow.orghttp://www.a-r-c.ca
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gene Youngblood" <atopia at comcast.net>
> To: <Frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:38:13 -0600
> Subject: [Frameworks] film analysis
>   Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis ever
> written about the form and content one filmmaker’s *total *body of work?
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Gene Youngblood" <atopia at comcast.net>
> To: <Frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:43:08 -0600
> Subject: [Frameworks] film analysis again
>   I’m sure you filled in the missing word, but it bugs me to leave it
> uncorrected:
>
> Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis ever
> written about the form and content of one filmmaker’s *total *body of
> work?
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Carlileb at aol.com
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:46:25 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film analysis
> **
>  In a message dated 5/18/2012 6:39:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> atopia at comcast.net writes:
>
>  Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis ever
> written about the form and content one filmmaker’s *total *body of work?
>
>
>  Truffaut's Hitchcock?
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John MacKay <johnmackay65 at gmail.com>
> To: Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>, Experimental Film Discussion
> List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:50:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film analysis again
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>
>   I’m sure you filled in the missing word, but it bugs me to leave it
> uncorrected:
>
> Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis ever
> written about the form and content of one filmmaker’s *total *body of
> work?
>
>
> Not sure: Charlie Musser's BEFORE THE NICKELODEON (on Porter)? Tom
> Gunning's FILMS OF FRITZ LANG? Interesting question….
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Myron Ort <zeno at sonic.net>
> To: Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>, Experimental Film Discussion
> List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 18:52:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film analysis
> Sitney's insights on /Brakhage
>
> Myron Ort
>
>
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>
>  Friends,
>> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis ever
>> written about the form and content one filmmaker’s total body of work?
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Myron Ort <zeno at sonic.net>
> To: Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>, Experimental Film Discussion
> List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:13 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film analysis
> For me it has been Sitney's insights on Brakhage, all along.
>
> Myron Ort
>
>
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>
>  Friends,
>> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis
>> ever written about the form and content one filmmaker’s total body
>> of work?
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>
>>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Myron Ort <zeno at sonic.net>
> To: Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>, Experimental Film Discussion
> List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:05:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film analysis
> For me it has been Sitney's insights on Brakhage, all along.
> At least for his angle on the work, which is deep.
>
> Actually, as far as I am concerned,  no one has really nailed it on anyone.
>
> Myron Ort
>
>
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>
>  Friends,
>> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis
>> ever written about the form and content one filmmaker’s total body
>> of work?
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>
>>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.**webfaction.com/listinfo/**frameworks<https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tim Halloran <televisual at hotmail.com>
> To: Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>, Experimental Film Discussion
> List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 19:22:05 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film analysis
> Naremore on Welles?
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 6:39 PM, "Gene Youngblood" <atopia at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis ever
> written about the form and content one filmmaker’s *total *body of work?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:02:50 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film analysis again
> David Bordwell's book on Ozu is a towering achievement. And it's available
> for free pdf download here:
>
> https://www.cjspubs.lsa.umich.edu/electronic/facultyseries/list/series/ozu.php
>
> In a very different way, Bazin's book on Renoir. "The French Renoir"
> (Chapter 5) is perhaps the best, most complete, and most sophisticated
> statement of Bazin's aesthetic. Some of its passages are pure poetry, too.
>
> Not so many books on avant-garde/experimental filmmakers come to mind.
> Lots of essay collections dedicated to a single filmmaker (e.g. the recent
> book on Ken Jacobs), but fewer sustained, book-length efforts. Several on
> Warhol, of course, but it's practically impossible to cover his total body
> of film work. JJ Murphy's recent THE BLACK HOLE OF THE CAMERA comes
> closest, and I highly recommend it.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor of Cinema
> Denison University
>
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 9:50 PM, John MacKay wrote:
>
>
> On May 18, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>
>   I’m sure you filled in the missing word, but it bugs me to leave it
> uncorrected:
>
> Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis ever
> written about the form and content of one filmmaker’s *total *body of
> work?
>
>
> Not sure: Charlie Musser's BEFORE THE NICKELODEON (on Porter)? Tom
> Gunning's FILMS OF FRITZ LANG? Interesting question….
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/pipermail/frameworks/attachments/20120519/140b0fc6/attachment.html 