[Frameworks] I forgot to mention that I am sending it from the US to Paris
katherine Bauer
kittylitterxox at gmail.com
Sun Nov 4 10:43:17 CST 2012
Thanks for the tips so far. But I did forget to mention that I am sending
it overseas - from US to Paris.
I too have sent it domestically in US and had no problem. But I imagine its
hard with customs. Is it really fine if I just mark DO NOT X-RAY. I think I
might just not send as much film. It was only to use HI-CON - otherwise Ill
just get film en Paris!
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> Subject: [Frameworks] is sending film through USPS OK?
> If I send film through the US Postal System will it be x-rayed? is
> x-raying film really that bad for it? Doesn't it depend on the speed of the
> film. If it is a low speed like 100 or 6 (hi-con) will it really affect
> it!!?
> thanks
> xo
> Kitty
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>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
>> But next year he’ll be increasing that contribution from $100,000 to
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>> On 10/31/12 10:43 AM, "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks
>> archive for this conversation about a year ago.
>>
>> Warren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
>> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
>> work...
>>
>> (but don't hold your breath)
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>> Savannah, GA USA
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
>> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
>> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
>> films."
>>
>> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
>> George.
>>
>> Welcome back George!
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck Kleinhans
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Lighting Gel
>> An 80B filter will take a 3200K lamp and give you about 6000K light,
>> which will mostly match daylight sort of most of the time.
>>
>> It is easier and cheaper to put a filter on the lens rather than gel
>> all the lights, if you don't have any daylight sources in the shot
>> that have to be matched to the lights.
>>
>> It's easier just to use tungsten film most of the time since you don't
>> take the light loss through the filter.
>> --scott
>>
>>
>>
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> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:35:02 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] is sending film through USPS OK?
> I sent colour neg to Alpha Cine in Seattle from the UK for dev and print
> and it was fine, completely unaffected as far as I can tell,
>
> Nicky.
>
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 17:25, katherine Bauer wrote:
>
> If I send film through the US Postal System will it be x-rayed? is
> x-raying film really that bad for it? Doesn't it depend on the speed of the
> film. If it is a low speed like 100 or 6 (hi-con) will it really affect
> it!!?
> thanks
> xo
> Kitty
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM, <frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com>wrote:
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>> 1. Re: Make way for Lucas (hinterland.movies)
>> 2. Re: Make way for Lucas (Adam Hyman)
>> 3. Re: Lighting Gel (Scott Dorsey)
>> 4. Millennium Film Journal (MIllennium Film Journal)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:43:14 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
>> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks
>> archive for this conversation about a year ago.
>>
>> Warren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
>> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
>> work...
>>
>> (but don't hold your breath)
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>> Savannah, GA USA
>>
>>
>> michaelbetancourt.com
>> twitter.com/cinegraphic | vimeo.com/cinegraphic
>> www.cinegraphic.net | the avant-garde film & video blog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
>> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and
>>> official retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making
>>> "experimental films."
>>>
>>> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns
>>> for George.
>>>
>>> Welcome back George!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck Kleinhans
>>>
>>>
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>>> FrameWorks mailing list
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>> From: Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:54:35 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
>> But next year he’ll be increasing that contribution from $100,000 to
>> $100,000,000
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/12 10:43 AM, "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks
>> archive for this conversation about a year ago.
>>
>> Warren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
>> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
>> work...
>>
>> (but don't hold your breath)
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>> Savannah, GA USA
>>
>>
>> michaelbetancourt.com <http://michaelbetancourt.com><http://michaelbetancourt.com/>
>> twitter.com/cinegraphic <http://twitter.com/cinegraphic><http://twitter.com/cinegraphic> |
>> vimeo.com/cinegraphic <http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic><http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic>
>> www.cinegraphic.net <http://www.cinegraphic.net><http://www.cinegraphic.net/> | the avant-garde film & video blog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
>> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
>> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
>> films."
>>
>> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
>> George.
>>
>> Welcome back George!
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck Kleinhans
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
>> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:04:45 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Lighting Gel
>> An 80B filter will take a 3200K lamp and give you about 6000K light,
>> which will mostly match daylight sort of most of the time.
>>
>> It is easier and cheaper to put a filter on the lens rather than gel
>> all the lights, if you don't have any daylight sources in the shot
>> that have to be matched to the lights.
>>
>> It's easier just to use tungsten film most of the time since you don't
>> take the light loss through the filter.
>> --scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: MIllennium Film Journal <mfj at mfj-online.org>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:10:24 -0400
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Journal
>> For our subscribers who have been expecting their copy of MFJ 56:
>>
>> Our offices in Chelsea New York are without electricity and the local
>> post office is closed. But the journals have arrived and are safe and dry
>> in boxes in the studio. We expect to get the shipment out next week.
>>
>> Sorry for the delay!
>>
>> Grahame Weinbren
>> Senior Editor
>> Millennium Film Journal
>> http://mfj-online.org
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:08:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] is sending film through USPS OK?
> > If I send film through the US Postal System will it be x-rayed?
>
> It is possible, unless you mark the package DO NOT X-RAY, in which case
> they will not. They do occasional spot X-rays of packages at customs and
> occasionally within the US. For domestic packages it is very rare but it
> happens sometimes.
>
> > is x-raying film really that bad for it?
>
> It increases the fog density. How much depends on how it was x-rayed.
>
> > Doesn't it depend on the speed of the film.
>
> It does. In general, the ratio is just like light... double the film speed
> and you get one stop more density with the same X-ray exposure.
>
> > If it is a low speed like 100 or 6 (hi-con) will it really affect it!!?
>
> Probably not, but I wouldn't risk it. Write DO NOT X-RAY-- MOTION PICTURE
> FILM
> on the side of the package or buy a roll of stickers from Markertek Video
> Supply
> or some such place.
> --scott
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Pablo Marin <pamarin82 at yahoo.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:09:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] is sending film through USPS OK?
> Post mail doesn't get pass through x-rays, so you shouldn't be worried
> about that.
>
> According to airport´s x-ray notification, only film faster than 500ASA
> should not be run through those machines.
>
> anyway, this question pops up here every now and then, so the archives
> could have a more extensive answer to it.
>
> best wishes,
> pablo.
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 11/1/12, Nicholas Hamlyn <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Nicholas Hamlyn <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] is sending film through USPS OK?
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2012, 2:35 PM
>
> I sent colour neg to Alpha Cine in Seattle from the UK for dev and print
> and it was fine, completely unaffected as far as I can tell,
>
> Nicky.
>
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 17:25, katherine Bauer wrote:
>
> If I send film through the US Postal System will it be x-rayed? is
> x-raying film really that bad for it? Doesn't it depend on the speed of the
> film. If it is a low speed like 100 or 6 (hi-con) will it really affect
> it!!?
> thanks
> xo
> Kitty
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM, <frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com<http://mc/compose?to=frameworks-request@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > wrote:
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> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Make way for Lucas (hinterland.movies)
> 2. Re: Make way for Lucas (Adam Hyman)
> 3. Re: Lighting Gel (Scott Dorsey)
> 4. Millennium Film Journal (MIllennium Film Journal)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=hinterland.movies@gmail.com>
> >
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<http://mc/compose?to=frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> >
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:43:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>
> Michael
>
>
> Michael Betancourt
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=warrencockerham@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks archive
> for this conversation about a year ago.
>
> Warren
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
> hinterland.movies at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=hinterland.movies@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
> work...
>
> (but don't hold your breath)
>
> Michael Betancourt
> Savannah, GA USA
>
>
> michaelbetancourt.com
> twitter.com/cinegraphic | vimeo.com/cinegraphic
> www.cinegraphic.net | the avant-garde film & video blog
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu <http://mc/compose?to=chuckkle@northwestern.edu>
> > wrote:
>
> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
> films."
>
> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
> George.
>
> Welcome back George!
>
>
>
> Chuck Kleinhans
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> >
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<http://mc/compose?to=frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> >
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:54:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
> But next year he’ll be increasing that contribution from $100,000 to
> $100,000,000
>
>
> On 10/31/12 10:43 AM, "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=hinterland.movies@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>
> Michael
>
>
> Michael Betancourt
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=warrencockerham@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks archive
> for this conversation about a year ago.
>
> Warren
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
> hinterland.movies at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=hinterland.movies@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
> work...
>
> (but don't hold your breath)
>
> Michael Betancourt
> Savannah, GA USA
>
>
> michaelbetancourt.com <http://michaelbetancourt.com><http://michaelbetancourt.com/>
> twitter.com/cinegraphic <http://twitter.com/cinegraphic><http://twitter.com/cinegraphic> |
> vimeo.com/cinegraphic <http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic><http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic>
> www.cinegraphic.net <http://www.cinegraphic.net><http://www.cinegraphic.net/> | the avant-garde film & video blog
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu <http://mc/compose?to=chuckkle@northwestern.edu>>
> wrote:
>
> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
> films."
>
> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
> George.
>
> Welcome back George!
>
>
>
> Chuck Kleinhans
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com<http://mc/compose?to=kludge@panix.com>
> >
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<http://mc/compose?to=frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:04:45 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Lighting Gel
> An 80B filter will take a 3200K lamp and give you about 6000K light,
> which will mostly match daylight sort of most of the time.
>
> It is easier and cheaper to put a filter on the lens rather than gel
> all the lights, if you don't have any daylight sources in the shot
> that have to be matched to the lights.
>
> It's easier just to use tungsten film most of the time since you don't
> take the light loss through the filter.
> --scott
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: MIllennium Film Journal <mfj at mfj-online.org<http://mc/compose?to=mfj@mfj-online.org>
> >
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<http://mc/compose?to=frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> >
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:10:24 -0400
> Subject: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Journal
> For our subscribers who have been expecting their copy of MFJ 56:
>
> Our offices in Chelsea New York are without electricity and the local post
> office is closed. But the journals have arrived and are safe and dry in
> boxes in the studio. We expect to get the shipment out next week.
>
> Sorry for the delay!
>
> Grahame Weinbren
> Senior Editor
> Millennium Film Journal
> http://mfj-online.org
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:16:36 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] is sending film through USPS OK?
> I've sent lots of film to Toronto, Seattle and Dwaynes via Canada Post and
> USPS. Air mail and ground shipment. Never had a problem. Also had lots of
> film x-rayed in my carry on in airports, again no problem. I don't mark
> anything I ship with those film x-ray stickers, I think it would just draw
> more attention, but I do include a not inside saying this is exposed film
> in case customs opens it.
>
> If you're really worried send it via ground shipping, no one is going to
> scan ground packages.
>
> John
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Nicholas Hamlyn <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2012 10:35:02 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] is sending film through USPS OK?
>
> I sent colour neg to Alpha Cine in Seattle from the UK for dev and print
> and it was fine, completely unaffected as far as I can tell,
>
> Nicky.
>
>
> On 1 Nov 2012, at 17:25, katherine Bauer wrote:
>
> If I send film through the US Postal System will it be x-rayed? is
> x-raying film really that bad for it? Doesn't it depend on the speed of the
> film. If it is a low speed like 100 or 6 (hi-con) will it really affect
> it!!?
> thanks
> xo
> Kitty
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM, <frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com>wrote:
>
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Make way for Lucas (hinterland.movies)
> 2. Re: Make way for Lucas (Adam Hyman)
> 3. Re: Lighting Gel (Scott Dorsey)
> 4. Millennium Film Journal (MIllennium Film Journal)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:43:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>
> Michael
>
>
> Michael Betancourt
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks archive
> for this conversation about a year ago.
>
> Warren
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
> work...
>
> (but don't hold your breath)
>
> Michael Betancourt
> Savannah, GA USA
>
>
> michaelbetancourt.com
> twitter.com/cinegraphic | vimeo.com/cinegraphic
> www.cinegraphic.net | the avant-garde film & video blog
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
> films."
>
> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
> George.
>
> Welcome back George!
>
>
>
> Chuck Kleinhans
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:54:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
> But next year he’ll be increasing that contribution from $100,000 to
> $100,000,000
>
>
> On 10/31/12 10:43 AM, "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>
> Michael
>
>
> Michael Betancourt
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks archive
> for this conversation about a year ago.
>
> Warren
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
> work...
>
> (but don't hold your breath)
>
> Michael Betancourt
> Savannah, GA USA
>
>
> michaelbetancourt.com <http://michaelbetancourt.com><http://michaelbetancourt.com/>
> twitter.com/cinegraphic <http://twitter.com/cinegraphic><http://twitter.com/cinegraphic> |
> vimeo.com/cinegraphic <http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic><http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic>
> www.cinegraphic.net <http://www.cinegraphic.net><http://www.cinegraphic.net/> | the avant-garde film & video blog
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
> films."
>
> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
> George.
>
> Welcome back George!
>
>
>
> Chuck Kleinhans
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:04:45 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Lighting Gel
> An 80B filter will take a 3200K lamp and give you about 6000K light,
> which will mostly match daylight sort of most of the time.
>
> It is easier and cheaper to put a filter on the lens rather than gel
> all the lights, if you don't have any daylight sources in the shot
> that have to be matched to the lights.
>
> It's easier just to use tungsten film most of the time since you don't
> take the light loss through the filter.
> --scott
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: MIllennium Film Journal <mfj at mfj-online.org>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:10:24 -0400
> Subject: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Journal
> For our subscribers who have been expecting their copy of MFJ 56:
>
> Our offices in Chelsea New York are without electricity and the local post
> office is closed. But the journals have arrived and are safe and dry in
> boxes in the studio. We expect to get the shipment out next week.
>
> Sorry for the delay!
>
> Grahame Weinbren
> Senior Editor
> Millennium Film Journal
> http://mfj-online.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mikhail Zheleznikov <mikhail.zheleznikov at gmail.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 01:46:30 +0300
> Subject: [Frameworks] The new online film festival Kinodot
> Dear Friends,
>
> Please, check out the new film festival Kinodot!
> The entry call is always open.
>
> Four NoMinations:
> No Money - films made without a budget;
> No Mumbling - films without dialogue or narration;
> No Music - films without a music score;
> No Montage - films made in one shot.
>
> Read more at:
> www.kinodot.com
> www.facebook.com/kinodot
>
> Best wishes,
> Misha
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: katherine Bauer <kittylitterxox at gmail.com>
> To: "frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:40:07 +0000
> Subject: [Frameworks] Also about mailing film
> Is it worse to x-ray unexposed film or exposed but unprocessed film?
> Thanks
> K
>
> On Thursday, November 1, 2012, wrote:
>
>> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to
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>
>
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>
>
>
>
> http://katherineannebauer.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lawrence Brose <lawrencebrose at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:07:26 -0400
> Subject: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> I have a student who wants to shoot stills off of a video monitor on
> film (still camera) and has asked about what correction he should make
> regarding the light meter reading. It has been a long time since I have
> done this so any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Abigail Severance <bellecote at mac.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:17:32 +0000 (GMT)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> If I'm understanding the set up, the illuminated monitor works like a
> light source, so you would use a spot meter to measure the intensity of the
> illuminated/reflected video image. Many film SLRs have one built in.
>
> One issue to consider is if the monitor itself (beyond the edges of the
> screen) is also part of the new film-still image, in which case you'd want
> to measure that area with an incident meter and see if your stock's
> latitude can hold both, and if so, what stop to set to keep detail in both
> the very bright screen and the less bright monitor. ND gel over the screen
> would bring down the brightness if you need to get it closer to the monitor
> reading. Be sure meters are set to still image reading, not "cine" setting.
>
> Abigail
>
> <> sent from abigail severance's cloud <> bellecote at mac.com <> 310.508.0352 <> www.film.calarts.edu
>
>
> On Nov 01, 2012, at 06:07 PM, Lawrence Brose <lawrencebrose at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have a student who wants to shoot stills off of a video monitor on film
> (still camera) and has asked about what correction he should make regarding
> the light meter reading. It has been a long time since I have done this so
> any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lawrence
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:26:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> The problem used to be that meters read too high because the CRT flickered
> and the meter read peak and not average light value.
>
> But now we live in the LCD age, and the LCDs don't flicker the same way, so
> you can pretty much trust meter exposures off an LCD. Also you can put
> your
> reflected light meter against an LCD without fear of magnetizing the screen
> as would happen with CRTs.
>
> I'd still bracket a stop either way but the LCD makes this much easier.
> You
> can even film off an LCD without too much flicker.
> --scott
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lawrence Brose <lawrencebrose at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:26:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> Thank you Abigail for your thoughtful and informative response.
>
> I really appreciate it.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> On 11/1/12 9:17 PM, "Abigail Severance" <bellecote at mac.com> wrote:
>
> If I'm understanding the set up, the illuminated monitor works like a
> light source, so you would use a spot meter to measure the intensity of the
> illuminated/reflected video image. Many film SLRs have one built in.
>
> One issue to consider is if the monitor itself (beyond the edges of the
> screen) is also part of the new film-still image, in which case you'd want
> to measure that area with an incident meter and see if your stock's
> latitude can hold both, and if so, what stop to set to keep detail in both
> the very bright screen and the less bright monitor. ND gel over the screen
> would bring down the brightness if you need to get it closer to the monitor
> reading. Be sure meters are set to still image reading, not "cine" setting.
> Abigail
>
> <> sent from abigail severance's cloud <> bellecote at mac.com <>
> 310.508.0352 <> www.film.calarts.edu
>
> On Nov 01, 2012, at 06:07 PM, Lawrence Brose <lawrencebrose at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have a student who wants to shoot stills off of a video monitor on film
> (still camera) and has asked about what correction he should make regarding
> the light meter reading. It has been a long time since I have done this so
> any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lawrence
> _______________________________________________
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lawrence Brose <lawrencebrose at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:31:50 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> Thank you Scott. He will be shooting a paused frame from a video so
> flickering will not be an issue. I think that bracketing is a great
> suggestion.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> On 11/1/12 9:26 PM, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem used to be that meters read too high because the CRT
> flickered and
> > the meter read peak and not average light value. But now we live in the
> LCD
> > age, and the LCDs don't flicker the same way, so you can pretty much
> trust
> > meter exposures off an LCD. Also you can put your reflected light meter
> > against an LCD without fear of magnetizing the screen as would happen
> with
> > CRTs. I'd still bracket a stop either way but the LCD makes this much
> easier.
> > You can even film off an LCD without too much
> > flicker. --scott _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks
> > mailing
> > list FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi
> > nfo/frameworks
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines at mindspring.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:48:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> If you are shooting color film, note that monitors are usually balanced at
> about 6500 degrees kelvin, which is essentially "daylight" -- so use a
> daylight-balanced film.
>
> Also I would use a shutter speed of 1/30th in case there are any
> field-issues depending on the video source (interlaced or progressive).
> Probably doesn't matter but can't hurt.
>
> Test!
>
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Lawrence Brose wrote:
>
> Thank you Scott. He will be shooting a paused frame from a video so
> flickering will not be an issue. I think that bracketing is a great
> suggestion.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> On 11/1/12 9:26 PM, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem used to be that meters read too high because the CRT
> flickered and
> > the meter read peak and not average light value. But now we live in the
> LCD
> > age, and the LCDs don't flicker the same way, so you can pretty much
> trust
> > meter exposures off an LCD. Also you can put your reflected light meter
> > against an LCD without fear of magnetizing the screen as would happen
> with
> > CRTs. I'd still bracket a stop either way but the LCD makes this much
> easier.
> > You can even film off an LCD without too much
> > flicker. --scott _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks
> > mailing
> > list FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi
> > nfo/frameworks
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lawrence Brose <lawrencebrose at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:09:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> Thank you Jeff. This is very helpful!
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> On 11/1/12 9:48 PM, "Jeff Kreines" <jeffkreines at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> If you are shooting color film, note that monitors are usually balanced at
> about 6500 degrees kelvin, which is essentially "daylight" -- so use a
> daylight-balanced film.
>
> Also I would use a shutter speed of 1/30th in case there are any
> field-issues depending on the video source (interlaced or progressive).
> Probably doesn't matter but can't hurt.
>
> Test!
>
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Lawrence Brose wrote:
>
> Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> Thank you Scott. He will be shooting a paused frame from a video so
> flickering will not be an issue. I think that bracketing is a great
> suggestion.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> On 11/1/12 9:26 PM, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem used to be that meters read too high because the CRT
> flickered and
> > the meter read peak and not average light value. But now we live in the
> LCD
> > age, and the LCDs don't flicker the same way, so you can pretty much
> trust
> > meter exposures off an LCD. Also you can put your reflected light meter
> > against an LCD without fear of magnetizing the screen as would happen
> with
> > CRTs. I'd still bracket a stop either way but the LCD makes this much
> easier.
> > You can even film off an LCD without too much
> > flicker. --scott _______________________________________________
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> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:30:38 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
> In the CRT era, the longer exposure was essential, but with the LCD's
> lack of flicker (and yes, the image is refreshed constantly even if you
> are showing a still image), you can shoot at 1/125th at least without
> any unevenness.
>
> Years ago there used to be all kinds of silliness involved with getting
> video monitors and television sets on shot; there were various shutter
> widths and speeds that you could use and couldn't use and synchronization
> boxes that would lock an Arri up to the video sync. All that is gone,
> gone, gone, in the world of the LCD. With the LCD you just shoot and it
> looks fine.
> --scott
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jason Stauffacher <jasonstauffacher at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:18:26 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
> I could retire on 1 million USD and could not imagine 4.1BILLION.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org> wrote:
>
>> But next year he’ll be increasing that contribution from $100,000 to
>> $100,000,000
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/12 10:43 AM, "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks
>> archive for this conversation about a year ago.
>>
>> Warren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
>> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
>> work...
>>
>> (but don't hold your breath)
>>
>> Michael Betancourt
>> Savannah, GA USA
>>
>>
>> michaelbetancourt.com <http://michaelbetancourt.com><http://michaelbetancourt.com>
>> twitter.com/cinegraphic <http://twitter.com/cinegraphic><http://twitter.com/cinegraphic> |
>> vimeo.com/cinegraphic <http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic><http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic>
>> www.cinegraphic.net <http://www.cinegraphic.net><http://www.cinegraphic.net> | the avant-garde film & video blog
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
>> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
>> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
>> films."
>>
>> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
>> George.
>>
>> Welcome back George!
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck Kleinhans
>>
>>
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> From: "Royce Marcus (Film)" <roycemarcusfilms at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:15:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Make way for Lucas
> I just read he's giving most of that $4b towards his philanthropic
> endeavors. I don't know if that includes film education or preservation.
>
> Royce
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Royce Marcus <deadman88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just read he's giving most of that $4b towards his philanthropic
>> endeavors. I don't know if that includes film education or preservation.
>>
>> Royce
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse or appreciate my grammar
>> accordingly.
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:18, Jason Stauffacher <jasonstauffacher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I could retire on 1 million USD and could not imagine 4.1BILLION.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org> wrote:
>>
>>> But next year he’ll be increasing that contribution from $100,000 to
>>> $100,000,000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/12 10:43 AM, "hinterland.movies" <hinterland.movies at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks! Glad to be erong about that
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Betancourt
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Warren Cockerham <
>>> warrencockerham at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> He does put a portion into preservation work. Check the Frameworks
>>> archive for this conversation about a year ago.
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Michael Betancourt <
>>> hinterland.movies at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Imagine if he put even a tiny part of his fortune towards preservation
>>> work...
>>>
>>> (but don't hold your breath)
>>>
>>> Michael Betancourt
>>> Savannah, GA USA
>>>
>>>
>>> michaelbetancourt.com <http://michaelbetancourt.com><http://michaelbetancourt.com>
>>> twitter.com/cinegraphic <http://twitter.com/cinegraphic><http://twitter.com/cinegraphic> |
>>> vimeo.com/cinegraphic <http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic><http://vimeo.com/cinegraphic>
>>> www.cinegraphic.net <http://www.cinegraphic.net><http://www.cinegraphic.net> | the avant-garde film & video blog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <
>>> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Announcing his sale of his Lucasfilm studio to Disney Corp and official
>>> retirement, George Lucas announced his return to making "experimental
>>> films."
>>>
>>> His estimated net worth: US $4.1 billion. No Kick-starter campaigns for
>>> George.
>>>
>>> Welcome back George!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck Kleinhans
>>>
>>>
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