[Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation

[carlileb at aol.com]

Well, it's right here, so we can see for ourselves:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1XNWrUP1u4



A friend of mine saw it last year in New York, and she says she still hasn't recovered!






-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:46 am
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dizziness and Disorientation


I don't think it's a reach at all to say that BaF can induce dizziness
or disorientation; calling the film "static," and implicitly likening
its camera movement to that of WAVELENGTH, is quite misleading. The
frenetic quality of BaF's camera movement is totally different from
the staid zooming of WAVELENGTH, and thus creates perceptual effects
that are distinct from the earlier film.

And whether "the camera position only moves once" is beside the point
- that may be the case (though I'm not convinced that the actual
position of the camera changes only once in BaF), but certainly the
extent to which a film might cause perceptual disorientation or
physical effects like dizziness isn't solely a matter of camera
position. There is no "camera position" at all in THE FLICKER, but
that film surely causes those sorts of effects.

BaF was indeed discussed in terms of its disorienting effects on
perception at the time of its release - see Manny Farber's ARTFORUM
review from 1970, or Peter Gidal's discussion of the film in
STRUCTURAL FILM ANTHOLOGY. At the very least, there is general
agreement that, at its most accelerated, the panning interferes with
the viewer's ability to perceive depth in the image, and to discern
the individual bodies and objects in the frame. This might not be
"dizziness," but it seems perfectly accurate to call it
"disorientation."

Jonathan

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Peter Mudie <peter.mudie at uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> Geez, Mike Snow's Back and Forth has nothing to do with 'dizziness' or
> 'disorientation'. There is a room, four windows, a door and some people
> doing things – the camera position only moves once (just after the
> beginning). In terms of phenomena it is remarkably 'static'. Ask yourself,
> is Wavelength 'about' 'horizontal vertigo'? Yikes.
>
> If you're in Wien then check out Kurt's material with Günter Brus and Otto's
> films.
>
> Peter
> ________________________________
>
>
> Michael Snow's Back and Forth would be the best example I can think of off
> the top of my head.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Anderwald + Grond
> <contact at anderwald-grond.at> wrote:
>>
>> Dear frameworkers,
>> We are currently conceiving a research project, including film screenings,
>> on the phenomenon of Dizziness/Disorientation seen as a resource for thought
>> and artistic practice.
>> Could you please recommend theory writings or artists' films and videos?
>> Thank you!
>> Ruth + Leo
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Department of Cinema
Denison University
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