[Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 43, Issue 19

Ross Nugent renugent at gmail.com
Fri Dec 20 15:23:07 UTC 2013


I just recently saw Manuel DeLanda's JUDGEMENT DAY (1983,S8-to-16mm, color,
sound, 8 min), which
features some pretty amazing cockroaches...

~Ross



On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:17 AM, חן שינברג <chennsh at netvision.net.il> wrote:

> The cameraman's revenge- ladislaw Starewicz.1912
> The acrobatic fly- percy smith. 1910
>
> And I also made many insect films,
> I can contact you off list.
>
> Thanks
> Chen Sheinberg
>
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
> ב-19 בדצמ 2013, בשעה 22:25, Curtis Tamm <curtis.tamm at gmail.com> כתב/ה:
>
> i am developing a list of experimental films about insects and islands,
> please help contribute.
>
> thanks,
> curtis
>
>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>    1. Ralph Steiner's Joy of Seeing (Pablo Marin)
>>    2. Re: projector-less film loops (Sasha Janerus)
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>> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:54:43 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Pablo Marin < <pamarin82 at yahoo.com>pamarin82 at yahoo.com>
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>> Hi all,
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>> Anyone out there knows if this is available in any way (print, dvd, link)?
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>> Thanks in advance,
>> Pablo Marin
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>> From: Sasha Janerus < <sasha.janerus at gmail.com>sasha.janerus at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] projector-less film loops
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>> A good place to look would be the recent book Exhibiting Cinema in
>> Contemporary Art by Erika Balsom.
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> 3.
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>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Mary Stark < <marystark at hotmail.co.uk>
>> marystark at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
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>> > Hi Rebecca,
>> >
>> > I have been working with 16mm film as installation using loops, fresnel
>> > lenses and film as a sculptural material. If you are interested please
>> look
>> > at my website and blog
>> > <http://www.marystark.co.uk/>http://www.marystark.co.uk/
>> > <http://interwovenpractices.co.uk/>http://interwovenpractices.co.uk/
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Mary Stark
>> >
>> > Tel: 07828450979
>> >
>> >
>> > On 17 Dec 2013, at 20:27, Jonathan Walley < <walleyj at denison.edu>
>> walleyj at denison.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Rebecca, et. al.,
>> > >
>> > > After re-reading your post, and reading Scott's response, it strikes
>> me
>> > that you may have been looking for information about early (e.g. silent,
>> > "primitive?") film systems that involved viewing 16mm film without lens
>> or
>> > projector. Your use of the term "installation" made me assume expanded
>> > cinema, film installation, etc., but then there's your reference to the
>> > zoetrope, which suggests that you're looking for something further back
>> in
>> > history. Of course, the zoetrope did not use film of any kind. What's
>> more,
>> > 16mm film wasn't invented until 1923, by which time projection - with
>> > lenses - was, of course, standard practice in film exhibition. I'm not
>> > aware of any viewing systems for 16mm that don't employ at least lenses:
>> > flatbed editors don't quite "project" the images, at least not in the
>> same
>> > way a projector does, and devices like Moviolas and Moviscopes don't
>> > involve projection - the film image is simply magnified into a viewer,
>> not
>> > unlike the Kinetsoscope. But these systems are used to edit film reels,
>> not
>> > to show loops. And they all use lenses.
>> > >
>> > > Specifying your research project would be helpful - can we have a
>> little
>> > more detail?
>> > > Jonathan
>> > >
>> > > Dr. Jonathan Walley
>> > > Associate Professor
>> > > Department of Cinema
>> > > Denison University
>> > > <walleyj at denison.edu>walleyj at denison.edu
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Well, the first loop system was the Edison Kinetoscope but that was
>> > 35mm..
>> > >> --scott
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