[Frameworks] drugged

[J Vent]

Ok, perhaps, but those are very subjective distinctions, semantics aside I
was responding to the request for: "the way hallucinatory and other drug
experiences have been portrayed on-screen". And yes those two films are
generally devoid of any hippy-dippy peace n love cultural references to
tripping. But certainly qualify in the request for "over-the-top visual
signifiers."

For example, Quadrophenia is no hippy trope either, but has great drug
culture images, both objective and subjective views are well referenced.

Maybe I took the "other" to be more significant than intended in the
original post, hence my range of suggestions.

peace,

JV


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <
emile at foryourhead.com> wrote:

> I think there is an important distinction between trippy and drugged.
> "Drugstore Cowboy and Sid and Nancy I'd call drugged but not trippy.
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> At 12:40 PM -0800 2/10/13, J Vent wrote:
>
>> Don't forget to look at things like Cheech and Chong flicks, and other
>> comedies in this vein, Dazed and Confused, (loosely) Donny Darko, etc.
>>
>> ok I'm done.
>>
>> JV
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>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:32 PM, J Vent <<mailto:jvent.subscriptions@**
>> gmail.com <jvent.subscriptions at gmail.com>>jvent.subscriptions@**gmail.com<jvent.subscriptions at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
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>> Certainly there are the bits with the high on speed/acid/booze Hells
>> Angels and others (hanging about on stage, before the murder,) from the
>> Maysles film "Gimme Shelter" and though not a psychedelic drug film, there
>> are few films that are druggier than "Requiem for a Dream" and I guess
>> "Drugstore Cowboy" might be considered in that way too. Oh, and then of
>> course there is the more recent "A Scanner Darkly".
>>
>> Puff N Stuff has been mentioned so I'll include my reference to the "Mr.
>> Show" episode that puts the Sid and Marty Croft man in a suit Saturday
>> morning kids shows into a proper context, i.e., Lidsville, Sigmond and the
>> Sea Monster, etc....supper druggy and funny.
>>
>> If your looking for more transgressive depictions of drug/underground
>> culture then look into the films of Richard Kern and the other
>> Transgressive filmmakers, "Right Side of My Brain" and others from his
>> canon might help.
>>
>> others:
>>
>> "Rivers Edge" - weed/booze/speed/narcotics
>> "Quadrophenia - speed/booze/weed
>> "Dogstar Man" certainly looks druggy
>> "What We Do is Secret" - Germs/Darby Crash biopic heroin/speed/weed/booze
>> "Sid and Nancy" - you name it
>> "Martin" - vampirism as drug addiction - George Romero
>> "Addiction" (also vampirism as drug addiction) , "Bad Lieutenant" - Abel
>> Ferrara
>> Loads of goofy getting it ridiculously wrong drug stuff in the old cop
>> show "Adam-12."
>>
>> Thats a pretty disparate group I've listed but hope it helps in some way.
>>
>> Joe V.
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>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Watter, Seth <<mailto:
>> seth_watter at brown.edu**>seth_watter at brown.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Ken Russell's Altered States: William Hurt tripping in the desert with
>> natives.
>>
>> Seth
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 10, 2013, Francisco Torres wrote:
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>>
>> Back in the late 60s/ early 70s most TV cop shows included a "trip"
>> sequence. The trend culminated with The French Connection 2 infamous heroin
>> room. Most of those trips were more funny than scary....
>> Some TV series were a trip like Land of the Giants and Puff N Stuff
>> (Which we 5th graders used to call "Puffing stuff" back in 72). Nixon TV
>> press conferences were also quite trippy.
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