[Frameworks] films that utilize zoom lens

Janis Lipzin jlipzin at aol.com
Sat Jan 5 17:04:00 CST 2013


Many of Joel Singer's films made before and during his collaborations  
with James Broughton utilized inventive and stunning use of zooms.   
Some examples are Perisphere, Glyphs, Gardener of Eden and others.   
His website is joelasinger.com
On Jan 5, 2013, at 10:01 AM, frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com  
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>    1. daylight spools and boxes (Katherine Bauer)
>    2. Re: daylight spools and boxes (John Woods)
>    3. Re: daylight spools and boxes (Pip Chodorov)
>    4. Films that utilize the zoom lens? (Mike Stoltz)
>    5. Re: Films that utilize the zoom lens? (adam at lafilmforum.org)
>    6. Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (Ken Paul Rosenthal)
>    7. Re: Films that utilize the zoom lens? (Peter Mudie)
>    8. Re: Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (Stefano Dooijes)
>    9. Re: Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (Mirko Heinemann)
>   10. Re: Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (peter snowdon)
>   11. Re: Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (Peter Mudie)
>   12. Re: Films that utilize the zoom lens? (Nicholas Hamlyn)
>   13. Re: Films that utilize the zoom lens? (Gene Youngblood)
>   14. Re: Films that utilize the zoom lens? (peter snowdon)
>   15. Re: Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (David Tetzlaff)
>   16. Re: Films that utilize the zoom lens? (David Tetzlaff)
>   17. Re: Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (Sean Morris)
>   18. Re: Films that utilize the zoom lens? (Jen Proctor)
>   19. Re: Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube (Robert Todd)
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> From: Katherine Bauer <kittylitterxox at gmail.com>
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> Hi Frameworks
> I was wondering if anyone in Paris had any daylight spools 100 ft  
> (30m) and
> boxes that they can lend me for a few a bit or could sell me.
> Thanks
> Kitty
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:01 PM, <frameworks- 
> request at jonasmekasfilms.com>wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Nicholas Hamlyn)
>>    2. Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans (Veronica Ibarra)
>>    3. Re: Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans (luis ?)
>>    4. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (John Woods)
>>    5. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Scott Dorsey)
>>    6. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Bernd Luetzeler)
>>    7. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Kevin Lungaro Mifsud)
>>    8. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Phaeton Graph)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Nicholas Hamlyn <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:29:43 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>> Kodak UK do free next day courier delivery on orders over £40, but  
>> they
>> might not have that many 100 rolls in stock so you might need to  
>> buy 400s
>> and spool them down onto 100s, assuming you have the facilities to  
>> do that
>> (i.e. a darkroom or changing bag and some rewinds). You could also  
>> try
>> Stanley Productions in Soho,
>>
>> Nicky.
>>
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:51, Veronica Ibarra wrote:
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>> India in
>> 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not delivering the  
>> stock as
>> promised.
>>
>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>> rolls.
>> That would be 80 rolls.
>>
>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>> Spain?
>>
>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>> take the
>> stock with them.
>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>
>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next 5  
>> days!
>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>> Regards
>> Veronica Ibarra
>>
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:11:23 -0800 (PST)
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans
>> Hi again,
>> I posted earlier about needing urgently to get hold of 16mm stock.
>>
>> In case we need to buy it in 400s instead of 100ft rolls,
>> Does anyone know where I could buy something like 80 100ft spools  
>> and cans
>> please?
>> In UK, Germany, Spain or India if possible please
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>> Veronica
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "luis ?" <mabalufilm at gmail.com>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 21:15:27 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans
>> In Spain it is impossible, I talked to a friend of Kodak and tells  
>> me no
>> stock!
>>
>> Best!
>>
>> Luis Macías
>>
>> www.cratercollective.com
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/3 Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>> I posted earlier about needing urgently to get hold of 16mm stock.
>>>
>>> In case we need to buy it in 400s instead of 100ft rolls,
>>> Does anyone know where I could buy something like 80 100ft spools  
>>> and
>>> cans please?
>>> In UK, Germany, Spain or India if possible please
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks mailing list
>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:33:43 -0800 (PST)
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>> Google is your friend, Kodak has contacts for people in India and  
>> others:
>> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/about/worldwide_sales_offices/ 
>> index.htm
>>
>> Or call Orwo in Germany.
>>
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>> *From:* Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:51:50 AM
>> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>> India in
>> 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not delivering the  
>> stock as
>> promised.
>>
>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>> rolls.
>> That would be 80 rolls.
>>
>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>> Spain?
>>
>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>> take the
>> stock with them.
>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>
>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next 5  
>> days!
>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>> Regards
>> Veronica Ibarra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
>> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com, jawoods01 at yahoo.ca
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:36:52 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>> If at all possible, buy from Kodak in India.... the list prices  
>> for the
>> same stocks are somewhat cheaper in India than in Europe.
>> --scott
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bernd Luetzeler <filmi at gmx.de>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 21:51:50 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>> according to friends of mine from India, there is NO b&w processing
>> available in India, so I doubt you will get b&w stock. Kodak India  
>> could
>> import it for you, but you will definitely miss your deadline...
>> Back in 2009 I ordered 100ft rolls Vision 3 colour neg stock from  
>> Kodak
>> Lab Mumbai, but 100ft was not available. So they imported the  
>> stock for me
>> which took some 6 or 8 weeks.
>> In Germany you can order 16mm daylight spools from Wittner (100ft is
>> labeled as 30 meters)
>> http://www.wittner-cinetec.com/katalog/08_aufna/a_aufna.php
>> good luck
>> Bernd
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2013 um 21:36 schrieb Scott Dorsey:
>>
>>> If at all possible, buy from Kodak in India.... the list prices  
>>> for the
>>> same stocks are somewhat cheaper in India than in Europe.
>>> --scott
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Kevin Lungaro Mifsud <kevinlungaromifsud at yahoo.com>
>> To: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>, Experimental Film Discussion  
>> List <
>> frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:44:29 -0800 (PST)
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>> Hi My name is Kevin and I come from Malta. Try the WIDE SCREEN  
>> CENTRE in
>> London 48,
>> Dorset Street. Telephone: 02079352580. Please add code number.
>>
>>   *From:* John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
>> *To:* Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>; Experimental Film
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:33 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain
>> or Germany?
>>
>>  Google is your friend, Kodak has contacts for people in India and  
>> others:
>> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/about/worldwide_sales_offices/ 
>> index.htm
>>
>> Or call Orwo in Germany.
>>
>>
>>   *From:* Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:51:50 AM
>> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>>
>>   Hi All!
>>
>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>> India in
>> 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not delivering the  
>> stock as
>> promised.
>>
>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>> rolls.
>> That would be 80 rolls.
>>
>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>> Spain?
>>
>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>> take the
>> stock with them.
>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>
>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next 5  
>> days!
>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>> Regards
>> Veronica Ibarra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Phaeton Graph <phaetongraph at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:07:46 +0000 (GMT)
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>> Check out Panavision UK
>>
>> http://www.panavision.co.uk/panastore/default.asp?cid=37&clr=true
>>
>>    *From:* Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 January 2013, 17:51
>> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or
>> Germany?
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>> India in
>> 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not delivering the  
>> stock as
>> promised.
>>
>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>> rolls.
>> That would be 80 rolls.
>>
>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>> Spain?
>>
>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>> take the
>> stock with them.
>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>
>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next 5  
>> days!
>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>> Regards
>> Veronica Ibarra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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>>
>>
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> From: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] daylight spools and boxes
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> You could try the local film lab. In Vancouver the labs would give  
> you all the cores, bags, spools and cans you could carry as they'd  
> have to throw out a lot of it. But I've been told some labs in  
> other regions will charge a small fee per item.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Katherine Bauer <kittylitterxox at gmail.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 10:31:27 AM
> Subject: [Frameworks] daylight spools and boxes
>
>
> Hi Frameworks
> I was wondering if anyone in Paris had any daylight spools 100 ft  
> (30m) and boxes that they can lend me for a few a bit or could sell  
> me.
> Thanks
> Kitty
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:01 PM, <frameworks- 
> request at jonasmekasfilms.com> wrote:
>
> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to
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>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..."
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Nicholas Hamlyn)
>>    2. Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans (Veronica Ibarra)
>>    3. Re: Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans (luis ?)
>>    4. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (John Woods)
>>    5. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Scott Dorsey)
>>    6. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Bernd Luetzeler)
>>    7. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Kevin Lungaro Mifsud)
>>    8. Re: Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain or Germany?
>>       (Phaeton Graph)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Nicholas Hamlyn <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film  
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:29:43 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or Germany?
>>
>> Kodak UK do free next day courier delivery on orders over £40, but  
>> they might not have that many 100 rolls in stock so you might need  
>> to buy 400s and spool them down onto 100s, assuming you have the  
>> facilities to do that (i.e. a darkroom or changing bag and some  
>> rewinds). You could also try Stanley Productions in Soho,
>>
>>
>> Nicky.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:51, Veronica Ibarra wrote:
>>
>> Hi All!
>>>
>>>
>>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>>> India in 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not  
>>> delivering the stock as promised.
>>>
>>>
>>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>>> rolls.  That would be 80 rolls.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>>> Spain?
>>>
>>>
>>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>>> take the stock with them.
>>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>>
>>>
>>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next  
>>> 5 days!
>>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance!
>>> Regards
>>> Veronica Ibarra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks mailing list
>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:11:23 -0800 (PST)
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans
>>
>> Hi again,
>> I posted earlier about needing urgently to get hold of 16mm stock.
>>
>>
>> In case we need to buy it in 400s instead of 100ft rolls,
>> Does anyone know where I could buy something like 80 100ft spools  
>> and cans please?
>> In UK, Germany, Spain or India if possible please
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot
>> Veronica
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "luis ?" <mabalufilm at gmail.com>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film  
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 21:15:27 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Where to buy 16mm 100ft spools and cans
>> In Spain it is impossible, I talked to a friend of Kodak and tells  
>> me no stock!
>>
>> Best!
>>
>>
>> Luis Macías
>>
>> www.cratercollective.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/3 Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>>
>> Hi again,
>>> I posted earlier about needing urgently to get hold of 16mm stock.
>>>
>>>
>>> In case we need to buy it in 400s instead of 100ft rolls,
>>> Does anyone know where I could buy something like 80 100ft spools  
>>> and cans please?
>>> In UK, Germany, Spain or India if possible please
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lotVeronica
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks mailing list
>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film  
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:33:43 -0800 (PST)
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or Germany?
>>
>> Google is your friend, Kodak has contacts for people in India and  
>> others:
>> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/about/worldwide_sales_offices/ 
>> index.htm
>>
>> Or call Orwo in Germany.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:51:50 AM
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain  
>> or Germany?
>>
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>>
>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>> India in 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not  
>> delivering the stock as promised.
>>
>>
>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>> rolls.  That would be 80 rolls.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>> Spain?
>>
>>
>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>> take the stock with them.
>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next 5  
>> days!
>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>> Regards
>> Veronica Ibarra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
>> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com, jawoods01 at yahoo.ca
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:36:52 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or Germany?
>> If at all possible, buy from Kodak in India.... the list prices  
>> for the
>> same stocks are somewhat cheaper in India than in Europe.
>> --scott
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bernd Luetzeler <filmi at gmx.de>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 21:51:50 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or Germany?
>> according to friends of mine from India, there is NO b&w  
>> processing available in India, so I doubt you will get b&w stock.  
>> Kodak India could import it for you, but you will definitely miss  
>> your deadline...
>> Back in 2009 I ordered 100ft rolls Vision 3 colour neg stock from  
>> Kodak Lab Mumbai, but 100ft was not available. So they imported  
>> the stock for me which took some 6 or 8 weeks.
>> In Germany you can order 16mm daylight spools from Wittner (100ft  
>> is labeled as 30 meters)
>> http://www.wittner-cinetec.com/katalog/08_aufna/a_aufna.php
>> good luck
>> Bernd
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2013 um 21:36 schrieb Scott Dorsey:
>>
>>> If at all possible, buy from Kodak in India.... the list prices  
>>> for the
>>> same stocks are somewhat cheaper in India than in Europe.
>>> --scott
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Kevin Lungaro Mifsud <kevinlungaromifsud at yahoo.com>
>> To: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>, Experimental Film Discussion  
>> List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:44:29 -0800 (PST)
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or Germany?
>>
>> Hi My name is Kevin and I come from Malta. Try the WIDE SCREEN  
>> CENTRE in London 48,
>> Dorset Street. Telephone: 02079352580. Please add code number.
>>
>>
>> From: John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>; Experimental Film  
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or Germany?
>>
>>
>> Google is your friend, Kodak has contacts for people in India and  
>> others:
>> http://motion.kodak.com/motion/about/worldwide_sales_offices/ 
>> index.htm
>>
>> Or call Orwo in Germany.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:51:50 AM
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain  
>> or Germany?
>>
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>>
>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>> India in 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not  
>> delivering the stock as promised.
>>
>>
>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>> rolls.  That would be 80 rolls.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>> Spain?
>>
>>
>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>> take the stock with them.
>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next 5  
>> days!
>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>> Regards
>> Veronica Ibarra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Phaeton Graph <phaetongraph at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>, Experimental Film  
>> Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:07:46 +0000 (GMT)
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK,  
>> Spain or Germany?
>>
>> Check out Panavision UK
>>
>> http://www.panavision.co.uk/panastore/default.asp?cid=37&clr=true
>>
>>
>> From: Veronica Ibarra <veronicaibarra at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
>> <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2013, 17:51
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Urgent: where to buy stock India, UK, Spain  
>> or Germany?
>>
>>
>> Hi All!
>>
>>
>> A filmmaker friend of mine is shooting an experimental feature in  
>> India in 14 days and Kodak spain has let him down and is not  
>> delivering the stock as promised.
>>
>>
>> He basically needs 2400 metres of 16mm B&W neg, ideally in 100ft  
>> rolls.  That would be 80 rolls.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know where he could buy these in the UK, Germany or  
>> Spain?
>>
>>
>> People are travelling from these places to India so they could  
>> take the stock with them.
>> I will contact Kodak UK tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> The important thing is that we need to get the stock in the next 5  
>> days!
>> If not, the film won't  be happening. Things are desperate!
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>> Regards
>> Veronica Ibarra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 03:40:11 +0100
> From: Pip Chodorov <frameworks at re-voir.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] daylight spools and boxes
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> Sure, I have plenty.
> Pip
>
>
>> Hi Frameworks
>> I was wondering if anyone in Paris had any daylight spools 100 ft
>> (30m) and boxes that they can lend me for a few a bit or could sell
>> me.
>> Thanks
>> Kitty
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:15:32 -0800
> From: Mike Stoltz <stoltz.mike at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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> Hello Frameworks,
>
> I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise)  
> to look
> at that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So far I have
> looked at these:
>
> WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
> SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
> BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner
>
> and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed
> HARVEST: 3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW  
> DANCE and
> SPEAKING DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.
>
> Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike Stoltz
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 05:18:24 +0000
> From: adam at lafilmforum.org
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List"
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> Every Robert Altman film, it seems to me.
> And multiple Andy Warhol films.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
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> From: Mike Stoltz <stoltz.mike at gmail.com>
> Sender: frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:15:32
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:08:19 -0800
> From: Ken Paul Rosenthal <kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: Frameworks Postings <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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>
> I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair  
> use* films from You Tube. Thanks, Ken
> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com  (Academic)www.crookedbeauty.com   
> (Public) 
> www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.comwww.kenpaulrosenthal.com 		  
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> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 18:32:23 +0800
> From: Peter Mudie <peter.mudie at uwa.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> Zoom Lapse – John Du Cane, 1975 (UK)
> Accretion – John Du Cane, 1977 (I think – also UK)
> Peter
>
> Hello Frameworks,
>
> I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise)  
> to look at that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So  
> far I have looked at these:
>
> WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
> SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
> BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner
>
> and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed  
> HARVEST: 3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW  
> DANCE and SPEAKING DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.
>
> Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike Stoltz
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:43:21 +0100
> From: Stefano Dooijes <kleinemanfano at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <DUB112-W47B4B78A62CC2DA2120BE6AB270 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Download helper add-on for firefox is very simple to use, lets you  
> choose the quality too.
>
> From: kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:08:19 -0800
> Subject: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair  
> use* films from You Tube. Thanks, Ken
> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com  (Academic)www.crookedbeauty.com   
> (Public) 
> www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.comwww.kenpaulrosenthal.com 		  
> 	   		
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:44:53 +0100
> From: Mirko Heinemann <nobenome at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID:
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> keepvid.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:56:52 +0100
> From: peter snowdon <peter at redrice.net>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Message-ID:
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> <1357394212.30466.140661173742009.3577DABA at webmail.messagingengine.com 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> It depends on your platform - which operating system, which browser,
> etc. I can only speak about Mac.
>
> I find Safari and Firefox plug-ins (on OSX) tend to work for a while,
> then stop working, or work only erratically, which is kind of
> frustrating...
>
> I used to use this:
>
> [1]http://www.verticalforest.com/2010/06/09/youtube5-html5- 
> converter-fo
> r-youtube-videos/
>
> But I am increasingly convinced of the merits of this:
>
> [2]http://thelittleappfactory.com/grappler/
>
> It costs money, but it seems not only more reliable than the browser
> plugins I tried, but it also works with any video source I throw at it
> (I couldn't get the vertical forest plugin to capture videos posted
> direct to Facebook, but Grappler does that no problem).
>
> Hope this helps:
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013, at 07:08 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal wrote:
>
> I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair use*
> films from You Tube. Thanks, Ken
> [3]www.crookedbeautythefilm.com  (Academic)
> [4]www.crookedbeauty.com  (Public)
> [5]www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com
> [6]www.kenpaulrosenthal.com
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> FrameWorks mailing list
>
> [7]FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>
> [8]https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
> --
>
> Nicolas Rey
>
> _______________________
>
> gourna films
>
> www.redrice.net
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.verticalforest.com/2010/06/09/youtube5-html5- 
> converter-for-youtube-videos/
> 2. http://thelittleappfactory.com/grappler/
> 3. http://www.crookedbeautythefilm.com/
> 4. http://www.crookedbeauty.com/
> 5. http://www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com/
> 6. http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/
> 7. mailto:FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> 8. https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 22:44:26 +0800
> From: Peter Mudie <peter.mudie at uwa.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <CD0E5B85.1258B%peter.mudie at uwa.edu.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Wondershare Free YouTube Downloader – operates on any browser:
> (http://www.wondershare.com/pro/free-youtube-downloader.html)
> No need to upgrade to the 'pro' version (unless you want to set  
> batch downloads)
>
> The videos come in a flv files – just crunch them (to whatever  
> format) with:
> (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/43682/flv-crunch)
>
> Both are free – easy to use and stable (to import into FCP or  
> Premiere).
> Peter
> ________________________________
>
>
> It depends on your platform - which operating system, which  
> browser, etc. I can only speak about Mac.
> I find Safari and Firefox plug-ins (on OSX) tend to work for a  
> while, then stop working, or work only erratically, which is kind  
> of frustrating...
> I used to use this:
> http://www.verticalforest.com/2010/06/09/youtube5-html5-converter- 
> for-youtube-videos/
> But I am increasingly convinced of the merits of this:
> http://thelittleappfactory.com/grappler/
> It costs money, but it seems not only more reliable than the  
> browser plugins I tried, but it also works with any video source I  
> throw at it (I couldn't get the vertical forest plugin to capture  
> videos posted direct to Facebook, but Grappler does that no problem).
> Hope this helps:
> Peter
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013, at 07:08 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal wrote:
> I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair  
> use* films from You Tube. Thanks, Ken
> www.crookedbeautythefilm.com<http://www.crookedbeautythefilm.com>   
> (Academic)
> www.crookedbeauty.com<http://www.crookedbeauty.com>  (Public)
> www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com<http://www.maddance- 
> amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com>
> www.kenpaulrosenthal.com<http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com>
> _______________________________________________
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> gourna films
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:56:19 +0000
> From: Nicholas Hamlyn <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <5F7CF262-8AFB-4FE7-A36A-93FAB853A665 at talktalk.net>
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> Peter Gidal: Condition of Illusion, Volcano.
> Nick Roeg: Eureka.
> Hitchcock's (jokingly) proposed, but never made, film of Titanic: a  
> two-hour zoom out from the Titanic's nameplate to a full wide shot  
> of the ship.
>
> Nicky.
>
> On 5 Jan 2013, at 05:15, Mike Stoltz wrote:
>
>> Hello Frameworks,
>>
>> I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise)  
>> to look at that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom).  
>> So far I have looked at these:
>>
>> WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
>> SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
>> BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner
>>
>> and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently  
>> enjoyed HARVEST: 3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A  
>> SLOW DANCE and SPEAKING DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.
>>
>> Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Mike Stoltz
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 08:09:15 -0700
> From: "Gene Youngblood" <atopia at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List"
> 	<frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Message-ID: <3F97AA8E33CB4615A1AA26A97950AF79 at HPHP>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Don’t forget the “constructed zooms” in Bill Viola’s early work,   
> Space Between the Teeth, Sweet Light, and Ancient of Days –  
> nontrivial meditations on time, space and scale. You will recall  
> that in Ancient of Days, a zoom moves into a street scene at a  
> constant rate while motion in the street slows to a halt,  
> independent of the zoom.
>
>
> From: Mike Stoltz
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:15 PM
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
>
> Hello Frameworks,
>
> I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise)  
> to look at that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So  
> far I have looked at these:
>
> WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
> SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
> BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner
>
> and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed  
> HARVEST: 3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW  
> DANCE and SPEAKING DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.
>
> Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike Stoltz
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 16:12:33 +0100
> From: peter snowdon <peter at redrice.net>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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> The work of Hong Sang-soo: starting with Tale of Cinema (2005), it has
> become central to his process and style.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013, at 06:15 AM, Mike Stoltz wrote:
>
> Hello Frameworks,
>
>
>
> I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise) to
> look at that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So far I
> have looked at these:
>
>
>
> WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
>
> SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
>
> BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner
>
>
>
> and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed
> HARVEST: 3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW DANCE
> and SPEAKING DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.
>
>
>
> Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Mike Stoltz
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> FrameWorks mailing list
>
> [1]FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>
> [2]https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
>
>
> --
>
> Nicolas Rey
>
> _______________________
>
> gourna films
>
> www.redrice.net
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:06:41 -0500
> From: David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> YouTube keeps changing their system, breaking the popular video  
> downloaders for Firefox: e.g. Download Helper doesn't work now.  
> Right now I'm using ByTubeD which isn't a super simple 1-click  
> thing, but it's not hard to understand and it works. You need to be  
> using Firefox, not Safari.
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> On Jan 5, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal wrote:
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>> I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair  
>> use* films from You Tube. Thanks, Ken
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:09:00 -0500
> From: David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> The car chase in Bullit
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 03:11:04 +1100
> From: Sean Morris <seanmorris888 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> I've found Speedbit works awesome, both with Vimeo and Youtube
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> http://www.speedbit.com/video-downloader-converter/
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> Cheers
> Sean
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:17:24 -0500
> From: Jen Proctor <proctor.jennifer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> Nearly all of Kubrick's films. A lot of Tarantino, too.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:09 AM, David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
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>> The car chase in Bullit
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> Jennifer Proctor
> Assistant Professor, Journalism and Screen Studies
> Department of Language, Culture, and Communication
> University of Michigan-Dearborn
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:51:55 -0500
> From: Robert Todd <Robert_Todd at emerson.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
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> thanks, Dan!
>
> On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David Tetzlaff wrote:
>
> YouTube keeps changing their system, breaking the popular video  
> downloaders for Firefox: e.g. Download Helper doesn't work now.  
> Right now I'm using ByTubeD which isn't a super simple 1-click  
> thing, but it's not hard to understand and it works. You need to be  
> using Firefox, not Safari.
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal wrote:
>
> I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair  
> use* films from You Tube. Thanks, Ken
>
> <ATT00001..txt>
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