[Frameworks] seminal writing on American a/g film after 76

Gawthrop, Rob Rob.Gawthrop at falmouth.ac.uk
Thu Nov 7 23:08:31 UTC 2013



If Avant-garde  is considered as any politically advanced or progressive
cultural practice then there is still a desperate need for it (though the
concept of 'progressive' may have ceased). The contexts of globalisation,
reification and commodification  need resisting and not conforming to.
Post-modernity isas Lyotard put it, a condition and as a condition (and not
a successor, 'replacement or 'style') and encompasses both the traditional
and the modern.

Rob


On 07/11/2013 20:59, "Myron Ort" <zeno at sonic.net> wrote:

>
> a·vant-garde
>
> noun
> 1.
> new and unusual or experimental ideas, esp. in the arts, or the people
> introducing them.
>
>
>
>
> adjective
> 1.favoring or introducing experimental or unusual ideas.
>
>
>
>
>
> So avant garde science would include all the unsuccessful experiments
> regardless of  significance, validity, or connection to any historical
> development.
> Fortunately science never succumbed to the "tradition of the new" which
> undermined sanity in the arts. Insanity seems to rule and reference to or use
> of tradition is branded as (been there done that - anti avant garde)
> plagiarism.
> I prefer the idea of art, like science, being built on a history of useful
> discoveries for expression, not expression for its own sake at the expense of
> insightful universality, technique, and craft.
>
> -not making any friends,
> Myron Ort
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Stashu Kybartas wrote:
>
>> Perhaps we should just admit that the Avant-Garde ended where Post-Modernism
>> and identity politics picked up. (the Post 70s chapters in Sitney
>> notwithstanding). The take was driven into the heart of the Avant-Garde at
>> the turn of this century with the web.
>>
>> There is no avant-garde now.  The internet insures that NOTHING will stay
>> avant - EVER.
>>
>> This is not nescessarily a bad thing.  Time to move on to the great future
>> where everything is available to everyone all the time - no exclusive clubs
>> anymore.
>>
>> Keep the faith...
>>
>>
>>
>> Stashu Kybartas
>> Lecturer IV
>> University of Michigan
>> Department of Screen Arts and Cultures
>> 6330 North Quad
>> 105 South State Street
>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1285
>>
>> (734) 546-9966
>> (773) 348-4292
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz7 at yahoo.es> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's another one:
>>> Indiscretions: Avant-Garde Film, Video, and Feminism
>>> by Patricia Melllencap (Indiana University Press)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> De: "William Wees, Dr." <william.wees at mcgill.ca>
>>> Para: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>>> Enviado: Jueves 7 de noviembre de 2013 2:26
>>> Asunto: Re: [Frameworks] seminal writing on American a/g film after 76
>>>
>>> I would suggest chapters 13 and 14 of Visionary Film: The American
>>> Avant-Garde, 3rd edition, by P. Adams Sitney, Oxford University Press, 2002;
>>> A Line of Sight: American Avant-Garde Film Since 1965, by Paul Arthur,
>>> University of Minnesota Press, 2005; and in all humility, a couple of essays
>>> by myself: ²The Changing of the Garde(s)² in Public, No. 25, 2002, and ³No
>>> More Giants² in Women and Experimental Filmmaking, eds. Jean Petrolle and
>>> Virginia Wright Wexman, University of Illinois Press, 2005.
>>>
>>> --Bill Wees
>>>
>>>
>>> From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Ara Osterweil
>>> Sent: November 5, 2013 10:19 AM
>>> To: frameworks
>>> Subject: [Frameworks] seminal writing on American a/g film after 76
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> A friend is compiling a bibliography and needs to know the 4-5 most
>>> important scholarly books or articles on American a/g film made after 1976.
>>> My scholarship on the a/g is mostly in the 60s and 70s and while I know much
>>> of the work that comes after, I wanted to confirm my suspicions.
>>> Suggestions welcome and appreciated.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ara
>>>
>>>

Falmouth University

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