[Frameworks] Explosives for space pirates film

[Francisco Torres]

In film faking explosions with non explosive means is usually cheaper and
better.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Tim Halloran <televisual at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Oh brother. If somebody wanted info on explosives for nefarious purposes,
> they wouldn't have to come here. Get real.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 8, 2013, at 6:50 PM, "chris bravo" <iamdirect at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> check in: someone posts up on the list asking where to buy explosives and
> people are engaging with him? really?
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Steven <steven at gladstonefilms.com> wrote:
>
>>  So, if you are doing anything more "explosive" than Flash paper. Find
>> someone who knows what they are doing and have done this before.Failing to
>> respect your media, any media leads to mistakes, and with anything that
>> burns or explodes. . .
>>
>> Sure sure I'm being overly cautious but people who load black powder are
>> not blowing up models, they are different applications.
>>
>> How do you want to blow it up, slowly in sections, one big bang?
>> Fire/Flame - not in space, probably would ruin your effect anyway.
>>
>> How many models can you blow up?
>> Perhaps instead you want to buy some explosions and do it in electronic
>> post?
>>
>> Remember the over-cranking calculation when working with models, which i
>> can't remember right now, but I'm sure Scott Dorsey will. I think it is 1/4
>> scale model = 4x over-cranking.
>>
>> I once shot some balloons being shredded for an artist, we shot 5,000 fps
>> (Redlake HyCam 16mm), because the artest really wanted to see his sculpture
>> shredding. We found a pyro guy, who had access to everything we needed, big
>> open field, and the knowledge. He chose to use what he called dust, which
>> was very very fine shot in shotgun shells (who knew such things existed?)
>> He built a rig to fire ten shotgun shells at once, test fired it to aim a
>> few times, first time it kicked so much, we added more sand bags to hold it
>> down. Then I asked the pyro guy why his head was bleeding, he said that one
>> of the pipes he had wlded to the rig to use as the gun barrels had broken
>> free of the weld, flown twenty feet through the air backward and took a
>> piece of his hairline. A check of the rig showed another weld had broken,
>> so we were down to 8 pipes/barrels. The rig didn't fire on the first roll
>> of film - one power outlet on the quad box was broken - wasted 400 feet in
>> about 5 seconds. But the next shot everything worked, although I doubt the
>> rig would ever fire again. This was with a guy who had been doing pyro
>> effects for a while, and that was what he was focussing on and studying.
>> Just some food for thought.
>>
>>
>> On 9/8/13 6:35 PM, ben.weinstein at mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>> I'm making a space pirates stop motion film and I was wondering if anyone
>> knew where I could acquire black powder to blow up model space ships with.
>> I know you can buy it in cans somewhere but I cant find a place in New York
>> that sells any explosives.  Do I have to go to the south or something?  Any
>> info is much appreciated.  Thanx.
>>
>> --
>> Steven Gladstone
>> New York Based Filmmaker917-886-5858http://www.gladstonefilms.comhttp://roadtodad.blogspot.com/http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/http://www.blakehousemovie.comhttp://www.hellion.gladstonefilms.com
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