[Frameworks] query for those who teach filmmaking

[Steven]

Late to the conversation, please forgive.
When I was teaching (an associates degree program), I taught as I had 
learned.
Tell a story visually in three minutes. Edit in camera, no retakes, if 
there is a mistake, so be it, it is after all only an exercise.
Yes it is a pain if you are "parallel editing", but again, it is an 
exercise.

After the footage is reviewed, discussed, and the mistakes, wonderful 
and not so wonderful, are looked at. Then go shoot the same story again, 
this time though, you can edit the footage in an NLE, so you can do 
re-takes, and etc. etc.

I think my students got something out of that, even though shooting in 
video and editing on an NLE.

Some students fought like hell, throwing up creative roadblocks, and 
others had to be hauled back in, as they had designs to fly before they 
could even crawl (That's fine and great, but got to learn the "rules" or 
guidelines as I called them, then learn why they work, and then study 
and figure out how and when to break them). It does few any good to bite 
off too much, and become discouraged. Perhaps the easiest thing about 
teaching is recognizing which student needs the nudge, and which need a 
brake, the hardest is getting them to trust you.

-- 
Steven Gladstone
New York Based Filmmaker
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On 4/23/14, 8:36 PM, Peter Mudie wrote:
> Then again, with all the dross out in the world, some people/students
> should never be allowed to make a film/video.
> Peter
> (Perth)
>
> On 24/04/2014 8:12 am, "Aaron F. Ross" <aaron at digitalartsguild.com> wrote:
>
>> It's true, professors with tenure can ignore the changing times.
>> There's no accountability and no consequences, so tenured professors
>> can be rigid, inflexible, and anachronistic, and get away with it.
>> But of course, that is doing the students a disservice. There's a
>> huge disconnect between academia and the real world, and young people
>> know it.
>>
>> In a way, the decline of tenure and the expansion of adjunct hires is
>> good for students. It's bad from a labor perspective, but at least it
>> keeps fresh blood coming in. Adjuncts have to continually
>> prove/improve themselves, and can't rest on their laurels. Ever.
>>
>> Regarding technology, I'm a selective adopter. Just because something
>> is new does not make it good. But the corollary to this is that just
>> because something is familiar does not make it good, either. We all
>> must think critically about technology if we are to be effective
>> educators, makers, and even consumers. Control the tools, or they
>> will control you.
>>
>> The fresco analogy unintentionally makes the opposite point. Art
>> schools don't teach fresco painting anymore, except as an extremely
>> specialist subject. Oil painting is a widely adopted technique that
>> has immediate application across the board. Fresco painting is, for
>> the most part, a dead art. So, in fact, students should not be
>> required to learn it.
>>
>> If you want to piss off students, wasting their time and money, then
>> by all means, make them learn some specialized, anachronistic subject
>> that has little or no application in the real world.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> At 4/23/2014, you wrote:
>>> But you _can_ reject the technology.  Not at all times, nor
>>> throughout the whole program.  But, just because oil painting exists
>>> does not mean that art students shouldn't learn how to make frescos.
>>> --scott _______________________________________________ FrameWorks
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-- 
Steven Gladstone
New York Based Filmmaker
917-886-5858
http://www.gladstonefilms.com
http://roadtodad.blogspot.com/
http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/
http://www.blakehousemovie.com
http://www.hellion.gladstonefilms.com