[Frameworks] Projectors, Power winders, Cans For Sale

Tue Apr 29 16:45:46 UTC 2014

Hello all:
We have a variety of projectors to sell, trade or donate to someone or an organization in the SF Bay Area. About 25 units
Most of the projectors are Bell&Howell, several old Eiki's (RST models) and 16mm. There are some 8mm projectors. Several are working, many need small fixes.
Also have 2 sets of Hollywood Power winds for sale, nearly new make offer (heavy).  Also have 800ft 16mm cans for sale.
Best to see everything at the archive here in SF. I don't have time to ship anything. Pickup only please. Let me know if you're interested in setting up a time to visit. Too much to list now. Best to come by. Email for best times.

Best regards,

Stephen Parr
Director

Oddball Films
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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck (Scott Dorsey)
  2. Re: 16mm projector in Belfast (Scott Dorsey)
  3. Re: Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck (Roger Wilson)
  4. animals and human-animal relationships on film (sarah browne)
  5. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film
     (Sonya Mladenova)
  6. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film
     (Cláudia Faria)
  7. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film (Eric Theise)
  8. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film
     (Kelly Gallagher)
  9. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film
     (festival at cjcinema.org)
 10. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film (Tom Whiteside)
 11. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film (Elena Duque)
 12. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film (Ross Nugent)
 13. Re: animals and human-animal relationships on film
     (Warren Cockerham)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:19:41 -0400
From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
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The original fuse holder is made by Schurter, and what you show here is just
the carriage.  The contacts on the part that is in the machine are bad,
which is why the contacts on the carriage are failing.

You have to replace the entire fuse holder assembly, not just the carriage.
My inclination is just to put a piece of sheet metal over the hole and
install a modern panel mount fuse holder that takes a 5/8 round hole.
It should be less than an hour for a competent technician.  This would be
much easier than trying to locate a US source for one that is the same
physical shape.

It is POSSIBLE that this is the same form factor as the model 348070/
348007 pair from Electronic Plus, as seen here:
http://www.electronicplus.com/content/ProductPage.asp?maincat=fus&subcat=fho

And that might work if your goal is to avoid doing any sheet metal work.
--scott

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:26:30 -0400
From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm projector in Belfast
Message-ID: <5357bf86.RWtX/eNBJcMiT4fx%kludge at panix.com>
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PLEASE don't run archive material through a projector.  Try calling the
guys at Yellow Moon and ask if they know someone in town with a flatbed
you could rent for an afternoon.
--scott

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:35:07 +0000
From: Roger Wilson <rogerdwilson at sympatico.ca>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
Message-ID: <BAY173-W40AEA6E5F36EFFC681BABFB8580 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks folks!
I'm hoping to just get lucky and find the holders from an old table somewhere, everything works fine on the table its just a couple of the fuse holders got broken during a move. I will try Steenbeck but I've contacted them in the past and I find they are not very helpful with older parts. 
Thanks again!
Roger

Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 7504rogerdwilson at sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca
Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. 

> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:19:41 -0400
> From: kludge at panix.com
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fuse holder for ST928 Steenbeck
> 
> The original fuse holder is made by Schurter, and what you show here is just
> the carriage.  The contacts on the part that is in the machine are bad,
> which is why the contacts on the carriage are failing.
> 
> You have to replace the entire fuse holder assembly, not just the carriage.
> My inclination is just to put a piece of sheet metal over the hole and
> install a modern panel mount fuse holder that takes a 5/8 round hole.
> It should be less than an hour for a competent technician.  This would be
> much easier than trying to locate a US source for one that is the same
> physical shape.
> 
> It is POSSIBLE that this is the same form factor as the model 348070/
> 348007 pair from Electronic Plus, as seen here:
> http://www.electronicplus.com/content/ProductPage.asp?maincat=fus&subcat=fho
> 
> And that might work if your goal is to avoid doing any sheet metal work.
> --scott
> 
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:05:22 +0100 (BST)
From: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>
To: "frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
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Dear Frameworkers,

I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.

Any tips very gratefully received!

Best wishes,

Sarah Browne

www.sarahbrowne.info
www.kennedybrowne.com

Hand to Mouth

CCA Derry-Londonderry

until 24 May 2014
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:11:49 -0400
From: Sonya Mladenova <sonya.mladenova at gmail.com>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, 	Experimental Film
	Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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	<CAE1Bgh+b=o0bsxZuPU3arevQkYNBE7C7P-b9QOavSg+gpxo8-g at mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Sarah,

Quick thoughts:

Grizzly man!
Turin horse...
Cave of Forgotten Dreams - scene at the very end with albino reptilians.
Gates of Heaven (on a pet cemetery)

Looking forward to that list myself,

Sonya

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> *Hand to Mouth*
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:20:48 +0100
From: Cláudia Faria <claudiapiresfaria at gmail.com>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, 	Experimental Film
	Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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	<CAG7d2_=VL1_BR6xMGnivGTU5Bzpm0zezixsQ_aThNiphwjgHzg at mail.gmail.com>
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La bête lumineuse by Pierre Perrault
Bresson's Au hasard Balthazar
Rat Life and Diet in North America by Joyce Wieland

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie> wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> * Hand to Mouth*
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:23:08 -0700
From: Eric Theise <erictheise at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
Message-ID:
	<CAHnuXWiMds9f5sU_kLM+Y+sQkR9nm_DBODVHnWZyWpgiBRD9dg at mail.gmail.com>
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Dream of the Wild Horses / Le songe des chevaux sauvages (1960), Denys
Colomb Daunant

Rat Life and Diet in North America (1968), Joyce Wieland

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Sonya Mladenova
<sonya.mladenova at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Sarah,
> 
> Quick thoughts:
> 
> Grizzly man!
> Turin horse...
> Cave of Forgotten Dreams - scene at the very end with albino reptilians.
> Gates of Heaven (on a pet cemetery)
> 
> 
> Looking forward to that list myself,
> 
> Sonya
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
>> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
>> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
>> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
>> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental
>> material more than Babe.
>> 
>> Any tips very gratefully received!
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Sarah Browne
>> 
>> www.sarahbrowne.info
>> www.kennedybrowne.com
>> 
>> Hand to Mouth
>> CCA Derry-Londonderry
>> until 24 May 2014
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:23:47 -0500
From: Kelly Gallagher <kelly at purpleriot.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
Message-ID:
	<CAB1wftYQKuGfjiwOTKutxpDq9FPw2q-QsfBbHq-+-SP=HiqNvQ at mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Sarah! For some short experimental stuff-----
+ Aaron Zeghers, Living on the Edge-- https://vimeo.com/51253890
+ Corinne Teed is an intermedia artist, mostly does print work but also
some video stuff. All involving animals usually. Check out Animal Chatz,
and Relationality-
https://vimeo.com/user22601695/videos
+ Jim Trainor, The Bats (and if you like that, then check out a few of his
other animal animations)
+ Jo Dery, Peeks

Cheers!
Kelly
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:29:27 +0200
From: "festival at cjcinema.org" <festival at cjcinema.org>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>,	Experimental Film Discussion
	List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
Message-ID: <B155238E-F6AC-461B-99C6-BC42E517D3F6 at cjcinema.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed";
	DelSp="yes"

NEOZOON, for SURE,

bio-filmo and film excerpts here :  http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche_auteur.php?auteur=924

NEOZOON, founded 2009 is a female art collective based in Germany and  
France. The artist group has been known for their actions performed in  
public space in european cities. Founding concept of their work is the  
relationship between animal and human and the question how modern  
society deals with both - dead and living animals. Artistic medium of  
their work is ranging from collages over installations to films.

ZAPRUDER FILMMAKERS GROUP The Hypnotist Dog here : http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche.php?film=2107

Robert Withers Turtle DREAM : http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche.php?film=781

and more...

Victor GRESARD
distribution

+++++

71 rue Robespierre
93100 Montreuil / France
email: victor.gresard at cjcinema.org
web: www.cjcinema.org
phone: +33 (0) 180601983

Le 23 avr. 14 à 17:05, sarah browne a écrit :

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature  
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife  
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the  
> animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for  
> reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence).  
> Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> Hand to Mouth
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:28:50 +0000
From: Tom Whiteside <tom.whiteside at duke.edu>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, Experimental Film Discussion
	List	<frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
Message-ID:
	<4761082ED0F718449DC114B6E679097D4F34394B at ex-mbg-03.win.duke.edu>
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An early documentary by Peter Friedman, "I Talk to Animals." It is wonderful, available from Strange Attractions.

Tom Whiteside                 Durham Cinematheque

From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of sarah browne
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film

Dear Frameworkers,

I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.

Any tips very gratefully received!

Best wishes,

Sarah Browne

www.sarahbrowne.info<http://www.sarahbrowne.info>
www.kennedybrowne.com<http://www.kennedybrowne.com>

Hand to Mouth
CCA Derry-Londonderry
until 24 May 2014

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:33:26 +0200
From: Elena Duque <elenaduque at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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	<CAJXwOR-YhXi-k=PXDzq2vOzA-6d=v3dHpR1Wu8CGeQASHe-05Q at mail.gmail.com>
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Crin Blanc, by Albert Lamorisse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTRML3X0lZ4

2014-04-23 17:28 GMT+02:00 Tom Whiteside <tom.whiteside at duke.edu>:

> An early documentary by Peter Friedman, “I Talk to Animals.” It is
> wonderful, available from Strange Attractions.
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Whiteside                 Durham Cinematheque
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
> Behalf Of *sarah browne
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
> *To:* frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than *Babe*.
> 
> 
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> 
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> * Hand to Mouth*
> 
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> 
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
> 
> 

-- 
Elena Duque Viña
Telf: (+34) 605431072
elenaduque at gmail.com
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:40:33 -0400
From: Ross Nugent <renugent at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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	<CAJz4n-UHh2qBHKLzogkTepQv0GzA2L=Jiroxxwcb+SnyGbhC2A at mail.gmail.com>
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I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS I AM LIKE by Bill Viola, 89 mins, 1986

These three Cecelia Condit titles:
WHY NOT A SPARROW, 13 mins, 2003
ALL ABOUT A GIRL, 5.5 mins, 2004
LITTLE SPIRITS, 9 mins, 2005

ZOO by Robinson Devor, 80 mins, 2007

Many George Kuchar titles, perhaps beginning with early WEATHER DIARY
installments, offer loving portraits of critters.

KITCH'S LAST MEAL by Carolee Schneeman, 54 mins, 1973-1976

~Ross

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:29 AM, festival at cjcinema.org <
festival at cjcinema.org> wrote:

> NEOZOON, for SURE,
> 
> bio-filmo and film excerpts here :
> http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche_auteur.php?auteur=924
> 
> NEOZOON, founded 2009 is a female art collective based in Germany and
> France. The artist group has been known for their actions performed in
> public space in european cities. Founding concept of their work is the
> relationship between animal and human and the question how modern society
> deals with both - dead and living animals. Artistic medium of their work is
> ranging from collages over installations to films.
> 
> 
> ZAPRUDER FILMMAKERS GROUP The Hypnotist Dog here :
> http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche.php?film=2107
> 
> Robert Withers Turtle DREAM :
> http://www.cjcinema.org/pages/fiche.php?film=781
> 
> and more...
> 
> 
> 
> *Victor GRESARDdistribution+++++*
> 
> 
> *71 rue Robespierre*
> *93100 Montreuil / France*
> *email: victor.gresard at cjcinema.org <victor.gresard at cjcinema.org>*
> *web: www.cjcinema.org <http://www.cjcinema.org>*
> *phone: +33 (0) 180601983 <%2B33%20%280%29%20180601983>*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 23 avr. 14 à 17:05, sarah browne a écrit :
> 
> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> *Hand to Mouth*
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:40:58 -0400
From: Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com>
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Many of Jim Trainor's works THE BATS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDizcCTUGdw
MOSCHOPS https://vimeo.com/76912422   HARMONY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUlE5iTSGSQ

Steve Reinke's BEAVER SKULL MAGICK
http://www.myrectumisnotagrave.com/vidleos/BeaverSkullMagick.html

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> *Hand to Mouth*
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:52:46 +0100
From: Heath Iverson <hai at st-andrews.ac.uk>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>,	Experimental Film Discussion
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*Electrocuting an Elephant* (1903). In which Thomas Edison, one of the
first and truly an experimental filmmaker, does just that to the poor
creature  to demonstrate the superiority of his DC electrical current to
his competitor, Nikola Tesla's, AC. Surely one of the stranger and sadder
cases of animals being caught up in inter-human behaviors.

There is also the incredibly strange and apocalyptic bug movie from 1971, *The
Hellstrom Chronicle *(Walon Green), which I can't believe won an academy
award for best documentary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R8UN9zGD04

Oh, and what about Ladislaw Starewicz's *Cameraman's Revenge *(1912)?
Another bug classic.

Best,

Heath

On 23 April 2014 16:05, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie> wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> *Hand to Mouth*
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> 
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-- 
Heath Iverson
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University of St Andrews
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:57:52 -0400
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Date: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:37 AM
Subject: Brian Frye: The Waste Books
To: hey at edhalter.com

Brian Frye: The Waste Books

Tuesday, April 29, 2014 at 7:30pm

Light Industry
155 Freeman Street
Brooklyn, New York

Writing of Joseph Cornell, Jonas Mekas remarked that his films “deal with
things very close to us, every day and everywhere. Small things, not the
big things…His works have the quality—be they boxes, collages, or movies—of
being located in some suspended area of time.” One finds a similar
sensibility in the films of Brian Frye, particularly so in a cluster of
16mm works completed around the turn of the 21st century, just as the end
of small-gauge cinema seemed all too immanent. At once literal actualities
and sphinx-like artifacts, Frye’s films might at first seem like outtakes
from lost projects, or damaged archival isolates, bearing grainy images
that beg for exegesis: Kennedy-era actors awkwardly intone lines from a
portentous melodrama; a woman’s face flits in and out of legibility beneath
a storm of visual debris; a old man points to a weathered gravesite, his
lips mouthing silent words; Civil War soldiers maneuver at the edge of a
forest. These moments play like misplaced bits of someone else’s memories,
physical records of our world mysteriously unmoored from their origins.

Currently a legal scholar—his research into the obscenity cases surrounding
Flaming Creatures may be found here—Frye was previously the longtime
co-proprietor, with Bradley Eros, of the Robert Beck Memorial Cinema,
undoubtedly one of the most vital alternative film venues of the 1990s. His
films, perhaps consequently, dissolve any lingering boundaries between
selection and creation. Some are completely found objects, only lightly
edited; others are shot entirely by Frye himself, yet are barely
distinguishable from strips of B-roll. All of them, in one way or another,
partake of the aesthetics of so-called amateur filmmaking—not merely in the
sense that Maya Deren or Stan Brakhage used the word, to invoke an
untrammeled love for the medium, but as a recuperative investigation into
the more invisible avenues of cinema’s history, a retracing of vernacular
attempts to convey the phenomenon of perception. Describing the source
materials of his film The Letter, Frye imagines the secret motives of its
anonymous cinematographer: “I’m told that all philosophy springs from one
question: why is there something, rather than nothing? These, perhaps, are
fragments of one man's answer to that question."

Followed by a conversation with Frye and Chrissie Iles.

The Anatomy of Melancholy, 1999, 16mm, 11 mins
Sometime in the 1960s, a chiropractor from Kansas City made a short film
called "A Portrait of Fear." The film consisted of several tableau shots of
amateur actors standing in a field at night reciting painfully overwrought
dialogue, apparently lit by the headlights of a car. I assume the
cinematographer used an Auricon, as the sound was recorded directly on the
B&W reversal original. In 1998, he sold me the outtakes, strung together
just like you see them. - BF

Broken Camera Reels 1 & 2, 2000, 16mm, 5 mins
The film consists of two rolls of film I shot in 1998 or 1999 while living
in a Bushwick loft. I was interested in the perfect simplicity of a movie
camera and what happens when a single part is disabled. So I found simple
old cameras and deliberately broke one part, to see what happened. In the
first reel, I removed the claw. In the second, I removed the shutter. As I
recall, I also have a scheme of swinging the camera back and forth and up
and down and various f-stop settings. Very Ernie Gehr. Playing, drinking
beer & shooting film. No editing to speak of. - BF

Oona’s Veil, 2000, 16mm, 8 mins
I know of only one film-record of Oona Chaplin (née O'Neill), this
screen-test made for a film in which she was cast and never appeared,
having met and married Charlie Chaplin before shooting commenced. Hers was
quite possibly the briefest ever film career, but brevity is no obstacle to
greatness. Some say that Chaplin himself directed her screentest; history
says otherwise. To hell with history. I rephotographed the original
screentest, doing 20 frame (I think) lap dissolves from one to the next.
The idea was lifted wholesale from David Rimmer, though I've never seen the
film(s?) in which he did it. I was interested in the brief transition from
still to motion in Chris Marker's La Jetée, and wanted to extend it
somehow. Anyway, I didn't like the result, as the image shifted a lot. So I
made a duplicate negative and did damage to it, to obscure the hiccups. It
was exposed to chemicals, buried, and left on the fire escape for a year.
What was left over I untangled, spliced together into something approaching
a continuous strip of film, and had printed. The result became the master
positive. The sound consists of a 78 of ‘Whispering Hope,’ played at 33
rpm. - BF

Lachrymae, 2000, 16mm, 3 mins
".. and yet of that living breathing throng, not one will be encased in a
material frame. A company of ghosts, playing to spectral music. So may the
luminous larvae of the Elysian fields have rehearsed earth's well beloved
scenes to the exiled senses of Pluto's Queen." - WKL Dickson

The Letter, 2001, 16mm, 11 mins
An essay toward documenting the ineffable...One might consider it a
dialogue between a man of Faith and one who has merely tasted of the
absurd, yet struggles to ingest it. - BF

Kaddish, 2002, 16mm, 11 mins
A fragment of tinted nitrate. An acetate recording of a wedding ceremony.
Echoes of the bitter sweetness of the Spirit on the tongue of Man. As
Frampton tipped his hat to Gloria, so might I. - BF

Robert Beck Is Alive and Well and Living in NYC, 2002, 16mm, 3 mins
Robert Beck was an American soldier from Chicago, who served in the First
World War. Struck deaf and dumb by shellshock, Beck was sent to an English
sanitarium to convalesce. At some point, the patients attended a movie.
Beck began to laugh, and was suddenly cured of his affliction. He became
the patron saint of New York's Robert Beck Memorial Cinema, dedicated to
films which touch the marvelous. On September 26, 2000, Stuart Sherman, the
great performance artist and filmmaker, presented several of his films,
interspersed with "perfilmances," in which he re-enacted the passion of
Robert Beck. This film is a record of that "spectacle," shot by Lee
Ellickson. Stuart Sherman died on September 14, 2001 in San Francisco. This
may have been his last New York performance. - BF

Across the Rappahannock, 2002, 16mm, 11 mins
On December 12, 1863, General Ambrose Burnside's Army of the Potomac
engaged General Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia in the town of
Fredericksburg, Virginia. Before Burnside's army could enter the town,
Union engineers were forced to lay pontoon bridges across the Rappahannock
River under withering fire. Close combat through the streets of
Fredericksburg and multiple assaults on the Confederate army entrenched in
the heights behind the town resulted in heavy Federal casualties, which
forced an eventual withdrawal. In November, 2001, I attended a small and
relatively informal reenactment of the battle of Fredericksburg. About a
hundred men and women did their best to illustrate the actions of the
thousands of young men who offered their lives a century earlier. An air of
absurd theater suffused the entire event, which provided the ground for its
peculiar truth. Everyone played their part exceedingly honestly and well,
and left something on the film I was myself surprised to find there. - BF

Brian L. Frye is an Assistant Professor of Law at the University of
Kentucky College of Law, where he teaches class in copyright, intellectual
property, nonprofit organizations, and civil procedure. Previously, he was
a Visiting Assistant Professor of Law at Hofstra University School of Law.
He was a litigation associate at Sullivan & Cromwell LLP. He clerked for
Judge Andrew J. Kleinfeld of the United States Court of Appeals for the
Ninth Circuit and Justice Richard B. Sanders of the Washington Supreme
Court. He received a J.D. from the New York University School of Law in
2005, an M.F.A. from the San Francisco Art Institute in 1997, and a B.A.
from the University of California at Berkeley in 1995. His research focuses
on legal issues affecting artists and arts organizations. His critical
writing on film and art has appeared in Film Comment, Incite!, and October,
among other journals.

Frye is also a filmmaker. Most recently, he produced the documentary film
Our Nixon (2013), which was broadcast by CNN and opened theatrically
nationwide. His other films have been shown in the Whitney Biennial 2002,
the New York Film Festival, and the San Francisco International Film
Festival, among other venues, and are in the permanent collection of the
Whitney Museum of American Art. He is currently working on The Winds & the
Waves, a documentary history of the media representation of the gay rights
movement, and Andy & Julia, a narrative feature about a day in the life of
Andy Warhol and his mother Julia Warhola.

Chrissie Iles is the Anne and Joel Ehrenkranz curator at the Whitney Museum
of American Art.

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:01:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: elizabeth mcmahon <elizmcmahon at yahoo.com>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>,	Experimental Film Discussion
	List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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Books, that may be helpful:

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/15611713052907_animals_in_film

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/11993112052907_animals_on_screen_and_radio

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/15551762052907_animal_actors

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/14068845052907_amazing_animal_actors

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/10971872052907_not_so_dumb,_the_life_and_times_of_the_animal_actors

FIlms:

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17082772052907_animals_in_motion

Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control

Microcosmos

Bill and Coo - you can find in the Internet Archive

Un Chien Andalou, sort of

https://www.youtube.com/user/HenriLeChatNoir and others in the Henri saga of feline existentialism

And a simply beautiful b&w film by experimental filmmaker Henry Hill, about his cat. I don't recall the title, but you could contact him. http://www.henryhills.com/about/contact.txt

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17120338052907_eadweard_muybridge_zoopraxographer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ed8Hbh5XK0 and other very early silent films by Ladislaw Starewicz

I hope these help.

Elizabeth

From: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>
> To: "frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
> Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> 
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> Hand to Mouth
> 
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> 
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:13:39 -0500
From: Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, 	Experimental Film
	Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
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Samuel Fuller: White Dog
Georges Franju: Blood of the Beasts
Hollis Frampton: Summer Solstice
Peter Kubelka: Unsere Afrikareise
I second the Jim Trainor suggestion; many of his films, actually.

Stan Brakhage:
Nightcats
Cat's Cradle
Sirius Remembered
Mothlight
Pasht
The Animals of Eden and After
The Shores of Phos: A Fable
The Presence
The Domain of the Moment
The Loom
Tragoedia
Burial Path
Bird
The Cat of the Worm's Green Realm
The Earthsong of the Cricket
The Lion and the Zebra Make God's Raw Jewels
Max
(and doubtless some others that don't come to mind at the moment)

Personally, however, I think we should first of all value the nature 
that our species has gone a long way towards destroying, and the animals 
that are a part of it, for what they uniquely are, before we start 
appropriating (or colonizing?) them as "an a kind of distancing tactic 
that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours," which seems to be 
most of what humans do. Some of the Brakhage films on my list, while 
always human-centric, do make a stab at trying to imagine animals as 
genuinely other than us.

Fred Camper
Chicago

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:14:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: elizabeth mcmahon <elizmcmahon at yahoo.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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Oh, that reminded me of "Blood of the Beasts." :(  

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17221432052907_your_closest_neighbors

http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/17595176052907_keep_em_flying

Elizabeth

From: Cláudia Faria <claudiapiresfaria at gmail.com>
> To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>; Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
> 
> 
> 
> La bête lumineuse by Pierre Perrault
> Bresson's Au hasard Balthazar 
> Rat Life and Diet in North America by Joyce Wieland
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie> wrote:
> 
> Dear Frameworkers,
>> 
>> 
>> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any tips very gratefully received!
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> 
>> Sarah Browne
>> 
>> http://www.sarahbrowne.info/
>> http://www.kennedybrowne.com/
>> 
>> 
>> Hand to Mouth
>> 
>> CCA Derry-Londonderry
>> 
>> until 24 May 2014 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:16:30 +0000
From: Herb Shellenberger <HerbS at ihphilly.org>
To: 'sarah browne' <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>,
	"frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com"	<frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
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Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death)
Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK)
Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada)
Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US)
Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada)
Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US)
Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK)
Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US)

Plenty Chris Marker films/videos

And how about some early cinema like:
Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany)
Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France)
Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US)

Herb Shellenberger
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From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of sarah browne
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film

Dear Frameworkers,

I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.

Any tips very gratefully received!

Best wishes,

Sarah Browne

www.sarahbrowne.info<http://www.sarahbrowne.info>
www.kennedybrowne.com<http://www.kennedybrowne.com>

Hand to Mouth
CCA Derry-Londonderry
until 24 May 2014

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:24:45 -0400
From: Tara Nelson <brendamerenda at gmail.com>
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One Species Removed by Jennifer Montgomery

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Herb Shellenberger <HerbS at ihphilly.org>wrote:

> Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death)
> 
> Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK)
> 
> Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada)
> 
> Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US)
> 
> Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada)
> 
> Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US)
> 
> Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK)
> 
> Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US)
> 
> 
> 
> Plenty Chris Marker films/videos
> 
> 
> 
> And how about some early cinema like:
> 
> Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany)
> 
> Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France)
> 
> Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US)
> 
> 
> 
> *Herb Shellenberger*
> *Programs Office Manager*
> [image: cid:image001.jpg at 01CE5258.78B1F010]
> 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
> phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
> email: herbs at ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
> Behalf Of *sarah browne
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
> *To:* frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than *Babe*.
> 
> 
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> 
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> * Hand to Mouth*
> 
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> 
> until 24 May 2014
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:32:29 -0600
From: "Gene Youngblood" <atopia at comcast.net>
To: "sarah browne" <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>,	"Experimental Film
	Discussion List" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
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Bruce Baillie, Valentin de las Sierras 1967

From: sarah browne 
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:05 AM
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com 
Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film

Dear Frameworkers,

I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.

Any tips very gratefully received!

Best wishes,

Sarah Browne

www.sarahbrowne.info
www.kennedybrowne.com

Hand to Mouth

CCA Derry-Londonderry

until 24 May 2014

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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:33:18 -0700
From: kate lain <kate at katemakesfilms.com>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, 	Experimental Film
	Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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Hi, Sarah!  Ha, I'd argue that "the animal presence as a kind of distancing
tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics,
empathy, violence)" is pretty much the project of all animal-focused
natural history films (from Disney's "Beaver Valley" to BBC/Discovery's
"Lion Battlefield" to [the French version, especially] of "March of the
Penguins") whether the makers admit/know it or not, but here are some
suggestions that are more along the lines of what you're asking for (I
think):

"Possibly in Michigan" (Cecelia Condit)
"Beauty Plus Pity" (Duke & Battersby)
"Sex Life of a Polyp" (Robert Benchley)
"Pennipotens" (Heather Freeman)
"The Jackdaw" (Fiona Campbell)

I know you're looking for films, but thought these readings might be of
interest to you as well:
Ronald Tobias' "Film and the American Moral Vision of Nature"
Donna Haraway's "Teddy Bear Taxidermy" (about natural history museum
dioramas, but those are pretty much the same thing as natural history
films, except more dead and with actual fur)
John Berger's "Why Look at Animals?" (from "About Looking")

Best,
Kate Lain

-- 
kate lain
kate at katemakesfilms.com
626.644.5283
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:34:07 -0400
From: Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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Many films by Rebecca Meyers - Night Light and Leaping, Lions and Tigers
and Bears, Murmurations, among others.

http://theworldviewed.com/files/2011/04/Meyers-EMS-booklet.pdf

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Tara Nelson <brendamerenda at gmail.com>wrote:

> One Species Removed by Jennifer Montgomery
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Herb Shellenberger <HerbS at ihphilly.org>wrote:
> 
>> Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death)
>> 
>> Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK)
>> 
>> Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada)
>> 
>> Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US)
>> 
>> Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada)
>> 
>> Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US)
>> 
>> Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK)
>> 
>> Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Plenty Chris Marker films/videos
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And how about some early cinema like:
>> 
>> Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany)
>> 
>> Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France)
>> 
>> Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Herb Shellenberger*
>> *Programs Office Manager*
>> [image: cid:image001.jpg at 01CE5258.78B1F010]
>> 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
>> phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
>> email: herbs at ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *sarah browne
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
>> *To:* frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> *Subject:* [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
>> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
>> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
>> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
>> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
>> experimental material more than *Babe*.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any tips very gratefully received!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sarah Browne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> www.sarahbrowne.info
>> www.kennedybrowne.com
>> 
>> 
>> * Hand to Mouth*
>> 
>> CCA Derry-Londonderry
>> 
>> until 24 May 2014
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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>> 
> 
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-- 
Tess Takahashi
Assistant Professor
Department of Film, Room 217
Centre for Film and Theatre
York University
Toronto, Ontario  M3J 1P3
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:37:05 +0100
From: Cláudia Faria <claudiapiresfaria at gmail.com>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, 	Experimental Film
	Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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The Hart of London by Jack Chambers

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie> wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> * Hand to Mouth*
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 19:38:00 +0100
From: חן שינברג <chennsh at netvision.net.il>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>,	Experimental Film Discussion
	List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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Dear Sarah,
I saw your post on frameworks, I am an experimental fillmmaker- videoartist from Israel and i do have some animals especially insects related films. I can send you links to my works if you want.
Best regards
Chen Sheinberg 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

ב-23 באפר 2014, בשעה 16:05, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie> כתב/ה:

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> Hand to Mouth
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:05:34 -0400
From: Andy Ditzler <andy at andyditzler.com>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, 	Experimental Film
	Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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Horse (Andy Warhol) uses the mere presence of a horse (along with costumes
and other elements, but primarily the horse) to visually denote the film's
status as a Western - possibly a distancing tactic in the way you suggest,
since inter-human violence (instigated from offscreen) certainly is a
subject of the film, and there is a definite animal-human interaction as
well.

Lucien Taylor's and Verena Paravel's recent film Leviathan is an immersive
record of the activity (animal and human) on and around a fishing vessel at
sea.

Guy Sherwin's Animal Studies series, available from Canyon.

Andy Ditzler
www.filmlove.org
www.johnq.org
Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM, sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>wrote:

> Dear Frameworkers,
> 
> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature
> animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife
> documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal
> presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on
> inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or
> experimental material more than Babe.
> 
> Any tips very gratefully received!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Sarah Browne
> 
> www.sarahbrowne.info
> www.kennedybrowne.com
> 
> 
> * Hand to Mouth*
> CCA Derry-Londonderry
> until 24 May 2014
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:10:31 +0000
From: Chuck Kleinhans <chuckkle at northwestern.edu>
To: sarah browne <sarahjbrowne at yahoo.ie>, Experimental Film Discussion
	List	<frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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I'm surprised no one has mention cat videos on YouTube.  While cliché´d and derivative for the most part, some of them are quite clearly artist-designed: try the ones of the Japanese cat "Maru".  It's clear that the person shooting is very talented, and designs interesting and intriguing props for this cat who loves to dive into boxes and bags.  Quite an international following.

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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:11:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: elizabeth mcmahon <elizmcmahon at yahoo.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on
	film
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The Ax Fight, and other films by Asch and Chagnon  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ax_Fight

Que Viva Mexico https://archive.org/details/QuevivaMexico

At NYPL; these are ethnographic films that do have a sense of experimental filmmaking: Magic Rites: Divination by Animal Tracks
Herding Cattle On the Niger 
Fishing On the Niger

Elizabeth

From: Tara Nelson <brendamerenda at gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
> 
> 
> 
> One Species Removed by Jennifer Montgomery
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Herb Shellenberger <HerbS at ihphilly.org> wrote:
> 
> Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death) 
>> Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK) 
>> Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada) 
>> Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US) 
>> Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada) 
>> Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US) 
>> Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK) 
>> Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US) 
>>   
>> Plenty Chris Marker films/videos 
>>   
>> And how about some early cinema like: 
>> Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany) 
>> Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France) 
>> Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US) 
>>   
>> Herb Shellenberger
>> Programs Office Manager
>> 
>> 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
>> phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
>> email: herbs at ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org 
>>   
>>   
>> From:FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of sarah browne
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
>> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film   
>>   
>> Dear Frameworkers, 
>>    
>> I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.  
>>    
>> Any tips very gratefully received!  
>>    
>> Best wishes,  
>>    
>> Sarah Browne  
>>    
>> http://www.sarahbrowne.info/
>> http://www.kennedybrowne.com/ 
>> 
>> Hand to Mouth  
>> CCA Derry-Londonderry  
>> until 24 May 2014  
>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>> 
>> 
> 
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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:40:12 -0400
From: Nicholas Kovats <nkovats at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: [Frameworks] Niagara Custom Labs in Toronto has a new website
	and a	new address!
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Yahoo! 35/16/8mm processing. New and old film stock. Film out service.
http://www.niagaracustomlab.com/

A treasured resource here in Toronto, Canada!
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