[Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 51, Issue 17

Sat Aug 16 03:37:03 UTC 2014

Thanks Herb+Christian
I've never seen the work and it  looks quite strong.
I'll followup at PFA and the with Michael when I get the time.

Stephen

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Today's Topics:

  1. SENSORY ETHNOGRAPHY IN 17TH CENTURY CATHEDRAL -- D.F	MEXICO
     CITY (Curtis Tamm)
  2. Re: Print Search (Herb Shellenberger)
  3. Notice of important Millennium Film Workshop Members Meeting
     on August 20 (Vance Klass)
  4. Re: cat films (Lauren Howes)
  5. Re: cat films (Shumona Goel)
  6. Re: Best quality 16mm film digitizing (Brecht Debackere)
  7. Re: cat films (Anna Swanson)
  8. Re: cat films (Ruth Hayes)
  9. Re: cat films (matfleming76)
 10. Re: cat films (Kelly Gallagher)
 11. Re: cat films (Anderwald Grond)
 12. Re: cat films (Steve Polta)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:56:52 -0500
From: Curtis Tamm <curtis.tamm at gmail.com>
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] SENSORY ETHNOGRAPHY IN 17TH CENTURY CATHEDRAL --
	D.F	MEXICO CITY
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GREETINGS FROM MEXICO FRAMEWORKERS --- I WRITE TO LET THOSE IN D.F KNOW
THAT I WILL BE SCREENING A NEW 'SENSORY ETHNOGRAPHIC' FILM SUPPORTED BY THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AND THE SWEDISH MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY, AT EX
TERESA ARTE ACTUAL, CALLED "THE THING IS ALL AROUND ITSELF" (16mm, HD,
2014, HERMIONE SPRIGGS AND CURTIS TAMM).

EX TERESA IS A 17TH CENTURY CATHEDRAL THAT HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO A MUSEUM
JUST OFF THE ZOCOLO.

THE EVENT WILL BE POWERFUL, IMMERSIVE, AND FEATURE LIVE 8 CHANNEL SOUND
DESIGN.

EX TERESA ARTE ACTUAL
AUGUST 19TH
TUESDAY
7:30PM

MORE INFORMATION HERE:
http://exteresaarteactual.blogspot.mx/?zx=5ac5f71a0cd772a6
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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:48:47 +0000
From: Herb Shellenberger <HerbS at ihphilly.org>
To: Frame works <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Print Search
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Stuart Comer presented Steven Arnold's The Liberation of Mannique Mechanique at the Tate in 2010, but on DVD. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/secretcinema/conversations/topics/690

Arnold's feature Luminous Procuress was distributed by New Line in the 1970s on 16mm. This document states that the Walker Art Center and Pacific Film Archive "have begun" preservation on it. Worth checking into.
http://www.fiafnet.org/pdf/AR2013/2013_Berkeley.pdf

I was also going to suggest getting in touch with the Steven Arnold Archive, though I would be very (happily!) surprised if they had any prints available for loan. Their SD transfers seem to be of good quality. They no doubt approved the screening of Luminous Procuress that happened at the Spectacle microcinema in Brooklyn last month.
Herb Shellenberger
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From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Christian Bruno
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:59 AM
To: Frame works
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Print Search

Hey Stephen,

I once contacted Micheal Wiese about 2 years ago, also in search of Messages, Messages. He directed me to the Steven Arnold Archive (http://stevenarnoldarchive.com/), no doubt you already tried that.

I can't remember how I found him, but likely it was through his book company---Michael Wiese Books (of Save The Cat fame). His email address is somewhere on his site (http://www.mwp.com/), so take a look. He said he didn't have prints, but it is worth an ask.

Christian
> From: info at oddballfilm.com<mailto:info at oddballfilm.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:34:22 -0700
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Print Search
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> 
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I am looking for prints of Messages Messages directed by Steven Arnold and Michael Wiese
> and anything else produced by Steven Arnold.
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:56:58 -0400
From: Vance Klass <vanceklass at icloud.com>
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:20:32 -0400
From: Lauren Howes <director at cfmdc.org>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
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³Cat Food² by Joyce Wieland.

________________________________________
LAUREN HOWES // EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
CANADIAN FILMMAKERS DISTRIBUTION CENTRE
SUITE 245-401 RICHMOND ST. WEST
TORONTO, ON M5V 3A8
director at cfmdc.org // 416.588.0725
www.cfmdc.org

P Before printing, think about the environment.

On 2014-08-13 8:09 PM, "Ronald Gregg" <ronald.gregg at yale.edu> wrote:

> Saul Bass' opening title sequence for Walk on the Wild Side
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jVRePj1Iq0
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <chuckkle at northwestern.edu>
> wrote:
>> The Walker is having their third Internet Cat Video Festival
>> 
>> http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2014/internet-cat-video-festival-2014?mc_ci
>> d=70d62a9316&mc_eid=770c6fb304
>> 
>> Which reminds me of experimental cat films, like the Hammid and Deren Life of
>> a Cat (remarkably politically correct: daddy cat is shown doing kitten care).
>>  What else could we shown in a Cat Film Fest?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck Kleinhans
>> chuckkle at northwestern.edu
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:32:12 +0500
From: Shumona Goel <shumonagoel at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
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Has this already come up?

http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_author=135

* Intercat '69 * (1969
<http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_year=1969>) 16mm,
color, 96 min

Genre: Documentary
<http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_genre=genre_documentary>,
Experimental
<http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_genre=genre_experimental>

Keywords: Environment & Nature
<http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_keyw=key_environment_nature>,
Found Footage
<http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_keyw=key_found_footage>,
History
<http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_keyw=key_history>,
Landscape & Architecture
<http://film-makerscoop.com/rentals-sales/search-results?fmc_keyw=key_landscape_architecture>

A cat anthology by Pola chapelle. Ten films from the 5 hours of films about
cats and by cats shown at the First International Cat Film Festival
(INTERCAT '69) which took place at the Elgin Theatre, NYc, on December 20,
1969.

Rental: $245.00
16mm Rental: $245.00

On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Lauren Howes <director at cfmdc.org> wrote:

> “Cat Food” by Joyce Wieland.
> 
> ________________________________________
> LAUREN HOWES // EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
> CANADIAN FILMMAKERS DISTRIBUTION CENTRE
> SUITE 245-401 RICHMOND ST. WEST
> TORONTO, ON M5V 3A8
> director at cfmdc.org // 416.588.0725
> www.cfmdc.org
> 
> 
> P Before printing, think about the environment.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2014-08-13 8:09 PM, "Ronald Gregg" <ronald.gregg at yale.edu> wrote:
> 
> Saul Bass' opening title sequence for
> *Walk on the Wild Side *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jVRePj1Iq0
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
> 
> The Walker is having their third Internet Cat Video Festival
> 
> 
> http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2014/internet-cat-video-festival-2014?mc_cid=70d62a9316&mc_eid=770c6fb304
> 
> Which reminds me of experimental cat films, like the Hammid and Deren Life
> of a Cat (remarkably politically correct: daddy cat is shown doing kitten
> care).  What else could we shown in a Cat Film Fest?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:01:58 +0200
From: Brecht Debackere <brecht at visualantics.net>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Best quality 16mm film digitizing
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Dennis Doros <milefilms at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lawrence,
> 
> The first and foremost thing is that the Association of Moving Image
> Archivists website has a brand-new Supplier Directory
> <http://www.amianet.org/sites/all/files/Supplier%20Diretory%20-%202014.03.pdf>
> that lists many of the resources anyone needs for the preservation of your
> materials. It's being updated constantly.
> 
> Secondly, you should have a plan for what you are doing.
> 
> If you are thinking preservation, you have to do 2K or 4K scanning rather
> than HD transfers. You should ask for copies of the digital DPX files in
> both the raw scan and "fixed" scans if you are doing any timing or cleanup.
> Then you should also have them deliver the final uncompressed or FinalCut
> Pro files for your use. The files should be given to you on both hard drive
> and LTO-6 tape (if you can get it -- if not, LTO5 would be fine.) They
> should both be migrated every four or five years. For my hard drives, I
> always buy a very large drive (usually 8TB to 12TB) for one or two films
> since you will want a mirror raid on it. For extremely expensive projects,
> I put them on two hard drives. Yes, it sound very OCD, but this is about
> preservation and redundancy, not about expediency.
> 
> As for a film at 18fps. You should first scan it at 24p and keep that raw
> scan. If you are doing any dust and scratch removal, it has to also be done
> at 24p and be kept. That will be your preservation master. Then, the lab
> can create a 18fps umcompressed or FCP file and synch it to sound.
> 
> I'm working with Jack Rizzo's Metro Post now and they are doing a very good
> job. I've worked with ColorLab many times and I trust them implicitly as
> well. It would also be a matter of doing your research and seeing what the
> best transfer would be for your material. I always ask what scanners and
> software they will be using and read the recent papers that are coming out
> of the new research on scanners, etc.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Dennis Doros
> Milestone Film & Video
> PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
> Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefilms at gmail.com
> 
> Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:30:40 -0700
From: Anna Swanson <annaswanson17 at gmail.com>
To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
Message-ID:
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Chuck, so glad you are asking this question. I tried to get my "feline
film" *focusing* to play in the Walker Cat Video Film Festival just to
shake things up and fuck with people by forcing them to be more
contemplative than they ever expect to be, but alas, it was not programmed.

Everyone else can watch it here though!

https://vimeo.com/82347369

Best,
Anna

-- 
Anna Swanson
360.970.6579
cargocollective.com/annaswanson
*experimental scholarly creative nonfiction*

On 8/13/14 6:41 PM, "Chuck Kleinhans" <chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:

> The Walker is having their third Internet Cat Video
> Festival

http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2014/internet-cat-video-festival-2
> 014?mc_cid=70d62a9316&mc_eid=770c6fb304

Which reminds me of experimental cat
> films, like the Hammid and Deren Life of a Cat (remarkably politically
> correct: daddy cat is shown doing kitten care).  What else could we shown
in a
> Cat Film Fest?

Chuck
> Kleinhans
chuckkle at northwestern.edu

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:36:36 -0700
From: Ruth Hayes <randomruth at comcast.net>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
Message-ID: <8BCBDDF2-6CB3-418C-A18C-28333B751E75 at comcast.net>
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It's not on film, but I invite you to view my own cat video, Wanda: https://vimeo.com/26779562

Ruth Hayes

http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:

> The Walker is having their third Internet Cat Video Festival
> 
> http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2014/internet-cat-video-festival-2014?mc_cid=70d62a9316&mc_eid=770c6fb304
> 
> Which reminds me of experimental cat films, like the Hammid and Deren Life of a Cat (remarkably politically correct: daddy cat is shown doing kitten care).  What else could we shown in a Cat Film Fest?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 00:12:44 +0100
From: matfleming76 <matfleming76 at googlemail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
Message-ID: <no7h03686diq2xsypmj8bvge.1408057964054 at email.android.com>
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I made one:

http://vimeo.com/202916

Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message --------
From: Lauren Howes <director at cfmdc.org> 
Date: 14/08/2014  21:20  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com> 
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films 

“Cat Food” by Joyce Wieland.

________________________________________
LAUREN HOWES // EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
CANADIAN FILMMAKERS DISTRIBUTION CENTRE
SUITE 245-401 RICHMOND ST. WEST
TORONTO, ON M5V 3A8
director at cfmdc.org // 416.588.0725
www.cfmdc.org

P Before printing, think about the environment.

On 2014-08-13 8:09 PM, "Ronald Gregg" <ronald.gregg at yale.edu> wrote:

Saul Bass' opening title sequence for Walk on the Wild Side
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jVRePj1Iq0

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
The Walker is having their third Internet Cat Video Festival

http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2014/internet-cat-video-festival-2014?mc_cid=70d62a9316&mc_eid=770c6fb304

Which reminds me of experimental cat films, like the Hammid and Deren Life of a Cat (remarkably politically correct: daddy cat is shown doing kitten care).  What else could we shown in a Cat Film Fest?

Chuck Kleinhans
chuckkle at northwestern.edu

_______________________________________________
FrameWorks mailing list
FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:58:59 -0500
From: Kelly Gallagher <kelly at purpleriot.com>
To: matfleming76 <matfleming76 at gmail.com>, 	Experimental Film
	Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
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Also, worth knowing-- "Radical Cats of Cinema" // "A cat is never on the
side of power"--
http://omgcatrevolution.tumblr.com/
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 06:07:52 +0200
From: Anderwald Grond <contact at anderwald-grond.at>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
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Fone Fur Follies by Vivian Ostrovsky

Am 14.08.2014 um 01:41 schrieb Chuck Kleinhans <chuckkle at northwestern.edu>:

> The Walker is having their third Internet Cat Video Festival
> 
> http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2014/internet-cat-video-festival-2014?mc_cid=70d62a9316&mc_eid=770c6fb304
> 
> Which reminds me of experimental cat films, like the Hammid and Deren Life of a Cat (remarkably politically correct: daddy cat is shown doing kitten care).  What else could we shown in a Cat Film Fest?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:12:28 -0700
From: Steve Polta <steve.polta at gmail.com>
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] cat films
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I believe this "intercat" program has been withdrawn from distribution at
the Film-Makers' Cooperative. Sad I know.

Cat films that come to mind...

*by Brakhage:*
*Night Cats *(or is it *Nightcats*)

*Cat of the Worm's Green Realm*

*Max*
(probably there are others)
*Luther Price: **Kittens Grow Up*

Steve Polta

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net>
wrote:

> In my one-month stint as "Interim Program Director" at Chicago Filmmakers
> earlier this summer, I programmed the INTERCAT '69 program for September.
> 
> http://chicagofilmmakers.org/cf/content/intercat-69-part-1
> 
> 5 hours of 16mm cat films from the 1940s-60s.  Available from Film-makers'
> Coop.
> 
> Last month, South Side Projections here in Chicago presented a 16mm cat
> screening, and last year SSP and CF co-presented a 16mm cat screening.
> 
> pf
> 
> 
> On 8/13/14 6:41 PM, "Chuck Kleinhans" <chuckkle at northwestern.edu> wrote:
> 
>> The Walker is having their third Internet Cat Video
>> Festival
> 
> http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2014/internet-cat-video-festival-2
>> 014?mc_cid=70d62a9316&mc_eid=770c6fb304
> 
> Which reminds me of experimental cat
>> films, like the Hammid and Deren Life of a Cat (remarkably politically
>> correct: daddy cat is shown doing kitten care).  What else could we
> shown in a
>> Cat Film Fest?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
>> Kleinhans
> chuckkle at northwestern.edu
> 
> 
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