[Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December

[Francisco Torres]

forza ferrania!

http://www.filmferrania.it/


2014-08-30 14:50 GMT-04:00 <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>:

> When I was a student in the mid 1970s, Ferrania used to make a good
> colour reversal film and five bath processing kit. This was in the days,
> now mostly long gone, when people did things; knitting, sewing, repairing,
> developing etc. The colour was beautiful: soft and subtle, but hard to
> control in processing. Amazing they're still around,
>
> Nicky.
>
>
>
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> From: 40 Frames <info at 40frames.org>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 19:22
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced
> in December
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> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin <bolextech at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally.
>>
>>  I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely
>> ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from
>> Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are truly amazed when I
>> mention this to them.
>> True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source
>> at the moment. For everything else, there are options out there, luckily.
>>
>>
>
>  It is a little complicated with Kodak's recent discontinuation of
> stocks.
>
>  I like ORWO, however ORWO stocks -- both UN54 and N74 -- do not run
> through one of my cameras without needing
> to make adjustments for running color vs. BW. I've had issues with ORWO in
> another camera as well. I've had few issues
> like this with Kodak BW stocks.
>
>  Also, with Kodak, being in education, I get a discount which makes it
> lower in cost than ORWO.
>
>  I've been shooting a project that uses Double-X (7222), Tri-X (7266)
> processed as negative and ORWO's UN54 and N74. When all of these stocks are
> printed to 7203 the differences are pretty slight. I don't know what labs
> are printing to ORWO's
> BW print stocks... though I would be curious to know, since 7203 and 3302
> may be put on the chopping block soon.
>
>  Ferrania (http://www.filmferrania.it/) might be starting production of
> color film stocks, but I have yet to see anything...and
> who knows when such a stock will become available in North America.
>
>  I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, I just think that ORWO and
> Ferrania will have to prove they have the same level
> of QC as Kodak does (and Fuji did). Not that Kodak is/was flawless, but
> it's amazing how close to perfect they can get in
> manufacturing their stocks.
>
>  Alain
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>   On 2014-08-30, at 12:21 PM, Edward Choi wrote:
>>
>>  I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in
>> 100' rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're
>> continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger
>> quantities? If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing
>> chain is set up could explain this, and perhaps disabuse me of my naivety,
>> I would be most grateful!
>>
>>  edo
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Marin <pamarin82 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that
>>> implying that Kodak doesn't have a "firm commitment to analog filmmaking"
>>> is kind of a cheap shot... when the issue is more complicated than that.
>>>
>>>  Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here but
>>> the fact is I´m kind of afraid of what some of these "committed" firms will
>>> start charging for film once the big old dinosaurs are gone... not to
>>> mention I don't see a discount price for students being offered in most of
>>> these devoted manufacturers...
>>>
>>>  All best,
>>>  Pablo.
>>>
>>>
>>>    On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:52 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin <
>>> bolextech at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X.
>>> Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least
>>> equal in quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave
>>> reviews since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to
>>> Tri-X.
>>>
>>>  I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to
>>> analog filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on
>>> everything.
>>>
>>>  Jean-Louis
>>>
>>>
>>
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