[Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December

Sat Aug 30 19:16:10 UTC 2014

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Ekrem Serdar <ekremserdar at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ferrania's got a survey up if you want to chime in:
> http://www.filmferrania.it/survey/
>
> I wonder how long 3378e will be around...
>

My thoughts exactly... maybe Toscano has word on this??

Alain

>
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> forza ferrania!
>>
>> http://www.filmferrania.it/
>>
>>
>> 2014-08-30 14:50 GMT-04:00 <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net>:
>>
>> When I was a student in the mid 1970s, Ferrania used to make a good
>>> colour reversal film and five bath processing kit. This was in the days,
>>> now mostly long gone, when people did things; knitting, sewing, repairing,
>>> developing etc. The colour was beautiful: soft and subtle, but hard to
>>> control in processing. Amazing they're still around,
>>>
>>> Nicky.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 40 Frames <info at 40frames.org>
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 19:22
>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued,
>>> Announced in December
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin <bolextech at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally.
>>>>
>>>>  I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many
>>>> completely ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the
>>>> world apart from Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are
>>>> truly amazed when I mention this to them.
>>>> True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source
>>>> at the moment. For everything else, there are options out there, luckily.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>  It is a little complicated with Kodak's recent discontinuation of
>>> stocks.
>>>
>>>  I like ORWO, however ORWO stocks -- both UN54 and N74 -- do not run
>>> through one of my cameras without needing
>>> to make adjustments for running color vs. BW. I've had issues with ORWO
>>> in another camera as well. I've had few issues
>>> like this with Kodak BW stocks.
>>>
>>>  Also, with Kodak, being in education, I get a discount which makes it
>>> lower in cost than ORWO.
>>>
>>>  I've been shooting a project that uses Double-X (7222), Tri-X (7266)
>>> processed as negative and ORWO's UN54 and N74. When all of these stocks are
>>> printed to 7203 the differences are pretty slight. I don't know what labs
>>> are printing to ORWO's
>>> BW print stocks... though I would be curious to know, since 7203 and
>>> 3302 may be put on the chopping block soon.
>>>
>>>  Ferrania (http://www.filmferrania.it/) might be starting production of
>>> color film stocks, but I have yet to see anything...and
>>> who knows when such a stock will become available in North America.
>>>
>>>  I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, I just think that ORWO and
>>> Ferrania will have to prove they have the same level
>>> of QC as Kodak does (and Fuji did). Not that Kodak is/was flawless, but
>>> it's amazing how close to perfect they can get in
>>> manufacturing their stocks.
>>>
>>>  Alain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 2014-08-30, at 12:21 PM, Edward Choi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in
>>>> 100' rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're
>>>> continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger
>>>> quantities? If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing
>>>> chain is set up could explain this, and perhaps disabuse me of my naivety,
>>>> I would be most grateful!
>>>>
>>>>  edo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Marin <pamarin82 at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that
>>>>> implying that Kodak doesn't have a "firm commitment to analog
>>>>> filmmaking" is kind of a cheap shot... when the issue is more
>>>>> complicated than that.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here
>>>>> but the fact is I´m kind of afraid of what some of these "committed" firms
>>>>> will start charging for film once the big old dinosaurs are gone... not to
>>>>> mention I don't see a discount price for students being offered in most of
>>>>> these devoted manufacturers...
>>>>>
>>>>>  All best,
>>>>>  Pablo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:52 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin <
>>>>> bolextech at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X.
>>>>> Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least
>>>>> equal in quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave
>>>>> reviews since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to
>>>>> Tri-X.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to
>>>>> analog filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on
>>>>> everything.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Jean-Louis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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