[Frameworks] question about fees for permission to use material

[Ted Hardin]

Just for grins and to amplify David's point, it's time to remember Paper 
Tiger TV's delicious "Herb Schiller Reads the New York Times" from 1981.
https://vimeo.com/82558179

David Tetzlaff wrote:
>> The soundtrack to James Benning's film "Deseret" consists entirely of some one reading NY Times articles aloud. I'm willing to bet he did not pay for the rights nor has been bothered by the NY Times about it.
> I repeat my point that it is not the rights holder the experimental filmmaker needs to be concerned about but programmers and other gatekeepers who are afraid of the rights holders (however misplaced that fear may be.)
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> No programmer in this field is going to say 'boo' to James Benning. For less well-known makers, especially people starting out, it's likely to be a different story.
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>> <chris at signaltoground.com> wrote:
>> I think its harder to apply fair use when you've already asked them what's "fair" to them.
> Er, no. It's a principle of law, not a matter for rights holders to decide themselves.
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>> Also when you know the other creator, the concept of fair use gets trickier, doesn't it?
> If someone you know demands a cash payment for something out of which you're unlikely to get even a penny in return, you need a better set of friends.
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