[Frameworks] Turner and Film

nicky.hamlyn nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net
Wed Feb 26 20:20:25 UTC 2014


I wrote about some of the Roman Numeral films in an essay for the same
Brakhage book. I think some of them are quite landscape-like, though perhaps
not as obviously as is Text of Light, which also evokes John Martin's
paintings at least as much as Turner,

Nicky.

From:  Sasha Janerus <sasha.janerus at gmail.com>
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Date:  Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:11:47 -0500
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Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film

on Brakhage and Turner, see Paul Arthur's essay in Stan Brakhage: Filmmker


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:
> Not "less known" perhaps, but Brakhage is key here.
> 
> He cites Turner as an influence in a list of influences, as someone mentioned,
> in my Criterion liner notes. It might be worth recounting how that list was
> composed. I asked him on the phone for his most important influences from
> writers, painters, and composers, and added, "You only get two of each." For
> painters he chose Turner and Pollock as the two most important. (He also
> added, on his own, an additional art, dance.)
> 
> "The Text of Light" would be the most important film here. Not only did he
> look at Turner, but the variability of light in Turner is deeply inscribed in
> that film. He also spoke of "The Text of Light" in terms of landscape. This
> aspect of light was explored even more radically in the "Romans," "Arabics,"
> and "Egyptians." The imagery in those films is far more removed from ideas of
> landscape.
> 
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Aaron Juneau <Aaron.Juneau at tate.org.uk>:
> 
>> 
>> Dear frameworks members,
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>> I'm contacting from Tate Etc. Magazine, London in the hope that somebody at
>> Frameworks might be able to help me with some research I'm undertaking with
>> regard to an article we're publishing in a couple issues time. Essentially
>> the article will focus on J.M.W Turner's influence on film. I was wondering
>> whether somebody at Frameworks could advise on some interesting, perhaps less
>> known filmmakers who have been influenced by him? I'm really looking at hard
>> fact and solid evidence as opposed to conjecture.
>> 
>> Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> My very best,
>> 
>> 
>> 
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