[Frameworks] 16mm --> HD --> 16mm

laska jimsen laskaj at gmail.com
Mon Jul 7 14:16:52 UTC 2014


Thanks so much, John and Jodie!


On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:09 PM, John Woods <jawoods01 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> I did use FCP to get an edit list in 2009. I used SD video with burn in
> code. Got Flex files from a transfer from Deluxe Vancouver. The used Cinema
> Tools to convert the files at home. However as I recall there was a few
> kinks in the workflow. Normally my digital edits are chaotic with clips
> stacked all over themselves on the timeline and this caused problems when I
> created the initial EDL. An editor pal said that I needed to simplify the
> timeline. So I re-arranged the cut onto a single line and also had to make
> sure that I used the fade/dissolve tools rather than using the 'pen' tool
> to create my own fades. I double checked the EDL with the burn in code and
> it was perfect!
>
> With a 24fps HD timeline I don't see why it wouldn't work. As per Jodies
> advice. Do everything very simple and clean and you'll be fine.
>
> John
>
>
>   On Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:48:56 AM, Jodie <jodiemack77 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Laska,
>
> I used that workflow (Film > Telecine > FCP7/CinemaTools > EDL/Cut List >
> Neg Cutter) after this thread.
> It actually worked out great, as the "24fps" (23.98) transfer is actually
> frame accurate within your FCP 23.98 sequence.
> For the EDL>Neg Cutter process, you absolutely need to make sure there are
> ZERO effects WHATSOEVER within your timeline: no contrast, no color, no
> scaling, nothing. Anything will send the computer spinning and provide
> inaccurate results. I was lucky enough to have work print to check against,
> but a color adjustment I didn't catch the first time definitely caused
> Cinema Tools to export an incorrect frame count for those few shots. After
> removing the filters, CinemaTools provided an accurate list. But, you
> definitely don't want to run into that sort of issue at the negative stage.
> So, if you have no work print, just take extra care to make sure your
> sequence is clean. You can also make sure your sound (if you have) ends at
> the same frame number as your cut list and so on.
>
> For a few other projects, I have skipped the CinemaTools stage and simply
> counted frames from the beginning of each shot when matching my film to my
> video edit. To me, HD actually brings simplicity to this process. Time's
> not time, but frames are frames!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Jodie Mack
> Assistant Professor of Animation
> Dartmouth College
> www.jodiemack.com
>
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