Well, as Vertov argued, the whole process of film making is editorial from start to finish, but that's surely different from what we understand as montage, at least in Eisenstein's sense of the term?
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From: Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com>
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The first Lumiere arguably has two instances of montage: the decision made about the points of time at which to start and stop filming. And both seem carefully considered choices.
Fred Camper
Chicago
On 5/22/2014 5:41 PM, Francisco Torres wrote:
Montage is used in those films but only on the sly.... ;)
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:53 AM, <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net> wrote:
A few films without montage, or indeed any editing in the conventional sense: Lumiere films, All my Life, Serene Velocity, Sidewalk Shuttle, Wavelength, Central Region, Russian Ark,many films by James Benning, Malcolm LeGrice, Peter Gidal....
NIcky.
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From: Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
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''Which principles do I have to bear in mind?''
One principle-Montage.
The stuff Cinema is made of.
Because films ARE made of clashing frames.
"If there is a God, it is a God of Montage''.
David Cronenberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYedfenQ_Mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHLMrbrAIiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXlzvvTHg7k
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Julianna Schley <julianna.schley at gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know where you live, but I know a great resource in Brooklyn is the public access channel. If you take an orientation and a class there (for under $100) you get to use their equipment. I imagine a lot of other cities have a similar set-up. That way you can try out a few different types of cameras, although it's possible that they will be out of date. I personally don't care about that. For me, just holding a camera and seeing a frame really changed how I thought about shooting. Good luck!
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Eleni Philippou <eleni_philippou at hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
I decided to start making my own films. Which camera shall I buy? Which principles do I have to bear in mind?
Any advice welcome.
Many many thanks,
Eleni Filippou
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