[Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films

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Truffaut: Day for Night.

Some of Jon Jost's early work?

Fellini: Eight and a Half.

Michael Snow: Two Sides to Every Story.

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From: David Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
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Living In Oblivion: the makers don't play themselves, but at least some of the characters are based on the makers. 


One P. M. (Leacock, Pennebaker, Godard)


Then there's the whole genre of documentaries beginning with a set-up of the makers stating an (ostensible) intent to make a certain kind of film, after which we see them failing at that and coming up with something else in the process: Nick Broomfield's "Aileen Wuornos: The Selling of a Serial Killer" and "Kurt and Courtney"; Greggorio Rocha's "Lost Reels of Pancho Villa", "Waiting for Fidel" (the grandaddy of the form), and, of course, "Roger and Me."



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Suyash Barve <suyashbarve at gmail.com> wrote:

hello all,


i am looking for reference titles that fall within the genre of films made on unfinished films/films coming apart/film that is being shot or in prodcution. the film we are watching is actually about the makers who are playing themselves but are also characters in the film. the film that they are putting together could be just fragments of a scene being shot or a location recce being planned and need not be a conclusive/meaningful film in itself. the film that is being made acts as the bridge to enter the world of the criss-crossing destinies, interesting back-stories and character detail of the film-makers who are playing themselves on and off camera and who have been brought together because of the film. the lines between docu and fiction are blurred so to speak and the director is exploring the on and off camera dynamics between characters and situations. some of the titles we have in mind are : 


through the olive trees - abbas kiarostami


salaam cinema - mohsen makhmalbaf


contempt - j-l godard (although this one has a very different outcome, the film within a film and the characters are consistent with the reference titles we are trying to source)


mary - abel ferrera


a cock and bull story - michael winterbottom


thank you for your time and effort to read through this notice. looking forward to getting some responses!


S





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