[Frameworks] advice on Europen film labs

Marco Poloni mar.poloni at gmail.com
Tue Oct 21 12:02:34 UTC 2014


Thank you Esperanza!
M

On 21 October 2014 13:54, Esperanza Collado <esperanzacollado1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I also recommend Haguefilm even though now prices have increased in that
> lab, it is very reliable. IDalies are very slow and Andec not the best.
>
> On Monday, October 20, 2014, Marco Poloni <mar.poloni at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Nicky,
>> Good to read you.
>> Best,
>> Marco
>>
>> On 20 October 2014 22:57,  <nicky.hamlyn at talktalk.net> wrote:
>> > I think you're worrying unnecessarily about losing film at the lab.
>> > These
>> > labs are professional outfits you know, not amateurs with bathtubs!
>> > You could also try Haghe Film in Amsterdam or Prestech in London for
>> > prints,
>> > iDailies in London if you just want dev and T'fer to ProRes HQ.
>> >
>> > Nicky.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jason Halprin <jihalprin at gmail.com>
>> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> > Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:11
>> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] advice on Europen film labs
>> >
>> > Marco,
>> >
>> > Not to be a buzzkill, but its likely that you'll already have some
>> > variability if some of your film has been sitting around a few years
>> > after
>> > shooting it. Letting film sit after exposure will usually cause fogging,
>> > though it may not necessarily create a look that is displeasing to you.
>> > This
>> > would mean that the fogging levels on your film would vary depending on
>> > just
>> > how long it has been since shooting, and how they've been stored since.
>> >
>> > That being said, if you've been shooting negative film, there's not too
>> > much
>> > to worry about from a reputable lab (which both DeJonghe and Andec are).
>> > Even if the development causes slight shifts in density and/or color
>> > balance, this can be worked out in printing or scanning (depending on
>> > your
>> > workflow). You'd be better off getting it all in at once so that it has
>> > a
>> > consistent look throughout. Everyone I know who has sent enough films to
>> > labs has a story of a batch getting damaged or not processed perfectly,
>> > but
>> > this is the exception rather than the norm.
>> >
>> > Of course, if you're shooting reversal, you'd also want to get it all in
>> > together for a consistent look, even though corrections can't be made
>> > unless
>> > you're scanning and/or creating an internegative for later.
>> >
>> > -Jason Halprin
>> >
>> > Jason Halprin
>> > jihalprin at gmail.com
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Marco Poloni <mar.poloni at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear frameworkers,
>> >>
>> >> I'm back from a shooting with 25 rolls of 16mm film and many more S8mm
>> >> film. Three years of painstaking work that will go into a movie.
>> >>
>> >> All this material has to go to a lab for development and I'm really
>> >> nervous about the possibility of making the wrong choice.
>> >>
>> >> I addressed this question about one month ago and received some goof
>> >> tips from some of you. So right now I am thinking of DeJonghe in
>> >> Brussels or TaunusFilm/Cinenova in Wiesbaden for 16mm and AndecFilm in
>> >> Berlin for S8mm.
>> >>
>> >> Is there any other lab you can think of that comes to mind? What I am
>> >> looking for is reliability and constancy throughout the whole
>> >> development chain: strict control of temperatures, of times, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Also, I was thinking of delivering the film rolls in batches of 4 or 5
>> >> to minimize the risk of damage (that is, to avoid that all the rolls
>> >> be lost because of some serious issue with the development machine)
>> >> but on the other hand this means more variability throughout the
>> >> process. What would you advise?
>> >>
>> >> Finally, AndecFilm with whom I have a good experience with S8mm have
>> >> had some residual jet rem as of lately. What should I say to Mr Draser
>> >> (the owner, a great guy) about this?
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks in advance!
>> >>
>> >> Very best,
>> >> Marco
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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