[Frameworks] good 16m lab in europe

JANA DEBUS info at janadebus.com
Fri Sep 26 09:34:33 UTC 2014 

CinePostproduction (fused many major postproduction companies in Germany, and sadly had to close their analogue postproduction as a result of bankruptcy...) 
recommended these two labs in germany to me today:

ARRI in Munich http://www.arricommercial.de/services/
Taunusfilm (Cinenova) in Wiesbaden http://www.taunusfilm.net/ 




On 25.09.2014, at 10:24, Marco Poloni wrote:

> Thanks Helga.
> Me too, with a very nice duplicate of some sectors of a 35mm film via
> a DI, although that did not give the full picture of their technical
> capabilities.
> Best wishes,
> Marco
> 
> On 25 September 2014 10:20, Helga Fanderl <helga.fanderl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I made good experiences with Cinenova in Wiesbaden.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Helga
>> 
>> 
>> Am 25.09.2014 um 10:02 schrieb Marco Poloni:
>> 
>>> Thanks Jana,
>>> 
>>> This is really helpful!
>>> 
>>> The good thing with Mr. Draser, the owner of Andec, is that once
>>> you're past his ex-eastern-german attitude (deadpan, a bit rough on
>>> the surface) he is very gentle, reliable, and professional.
>>> 
>>> Anyone has had some experience with ARRI schwarzfilm in Berlin, or TF
>>> Cinenova in Wiesbaden?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Marco
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 September 2014 02:12, JANA DEBUS <info at janadebus.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, but as Film 16 Rings was mentioned here, I have to add this:
>>>> Beware!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Film 16" Helmut Rings is NOT recommendable.
>>>> 
>>>> I had a 35 mm Exhibition Print done there.
>>>> It had several severe technical flaws, it was unusable for exhibition.
>>>> As by error his bill of ~ € 5.000,00 had been payed too soon,
>>>> he never made a correction.
>>>> 
>>>> I had to show the film from DigiBeta.
>>>> And still remain to this day with a technically faulty print (sound and
>>>> image!).
>>>> 
>>>> Besides his technical deficiency, he is also extremely difficult to deal
>>>> with as he is choleric and doesn't fulfill.
>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> De Haghe film in Amsterdam, De Jonghe film lab in Brussels and  Andec
>>>> film lab in Berlin, where recently highly recommended to me.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jana
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 24.09.2014, at 23:20, Marco Poloni wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Esperanza, Chris, Michael!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, it's negative film. I will research the labs you recommend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>> Marco
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 September 2014 18:24, Esperanza Collado
>>>>> <esperanzacollado1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Marco,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would highly recommend Super8 Reversal Lab in Holland for your
>>>>>> super-8
>>>>>> films
>>>>>> http://www.super8.nl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And Haguefilm Digitaal, formerly Cineco, has recently increased prices,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> if you have enough budget I would not hesitate to contact them directly
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a quote of your 16mm magazines. Their website is not too complete, but
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can write Wim de Boer from the lab info at haghefilm.nl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Both labs are very reliable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Im guessing at least your 16mm stock is negative film, otherwise Frank
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Super8Reversal can process everything.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Esperanza.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2014-09-24 17:35 GMT+02:00 Michael joyce <joyce at lpnhe.in2p3.fr>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> you might like to try deJonghe in Belgium:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.postproduction.be/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had them develop both colour and b+w 16mm a couple of
>>>>>>> years back and was very happy with results.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 24 sept. 2014, at 17:19, Marco Poloni wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Frameworkers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am soon to shoot quite a number of 16mm magazines for a film
>>>>>>>> production. I don't want to take any risks with the material – of
>>>>>>>> course –, and was wondering if any of you has had recent experience
>>>>>>>> with fim labs in Europe.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In the past I have worked with Egli film in Zürich, who absorbed the
>>>>>>>> famous Schwarzfilm from Bern. I've had good results years ago, with
>>>>>>>> only one scratch once on a roll, but they are quite expensive. Plus,
>>>>>>>> since fewer and fewer people shoot 16mm, I don't know how fresh their
>>>>>>>> chemistry is.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For S-8mm I work with Andec filmtechnik in Berlin, but I am not sure
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> would give them my material. The S-8mm magazines they process
>>>>>>>> sometimes have a bit of residual jet rem, which is almost acceptable
>>>>>>>> on 8mm gauge but not on 16mm.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In Berlin there's also ARRI Schwarzfilm, but again, no idea if they
>>>>>>>> use fresh chemistry and have expert people running the machines.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your feedback!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>> 
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