[Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

Elisa Da Prato elisadaprato at gmail.com
Wed Apr 1 15:41:09 UTC 2015


agreed ^^^^

kindly,
e

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Edward Choi <edo at uchicago.edu> wrote:

> Can whoever moderates/administers this list please intervene? This got out
> of hand 24 hours ago.
>
> edo
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jen you have no clue why those people were told to fuck off ?? try in
>> future to parse information please
>>
>> Is it dificult to understand ethics violations or you just dont even
>> bother to consider ethics at all because you "comfortably" had a fucking
>> cup of tea this morning with goddamn sugar and cream in it and woman can do
>> whatever the fuck they want if they are western
>>
>> Your little whiny western school children maybe should be shown footage
>> of monks self immulating in order to get a clue and maybe you yourself
>> should look at some war footage of what your precious west has done to
>> vietnam or iraqi men woman children plants animals art books world heritage
>> sites and consider ethics for 2 fucking seconds of your blip of a life
>>
>> The unconsciousness of babbling support of a whiny western priviledged
>> fuck is repulsive
>> On Apr 1, 2015 6:39 AM, "Jen Proctor" <proctor.jennifer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think Sasha knows the spirit of her comments is supported both on and
>>> off this list, but I wanted to openly add my voice to the chorus of
>>> supporters.
>>>
>>> And I say this as someone who counts Wavelength among my very favorite
>>> films, and who has shown it to students with all the passion, fervor, and
>>> sense of curiosity I can muster, and who still has had students say they
>>> wanted to set themselves on fire watching it. :/
>>>
>>> P.S. I have pre-emptively told myself to heartily fuck off.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jason Halprin <jihalprin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim - You can (and should)! Just set up a filter to have emails from
>>>> anyone you'd rather not hear from sent directly to your trash. Problem
>>>> solved, listserv members reduced by one. Separates the good stuff from the
>>>> vitrol.
>>>>
>>>> Sasha - as a long-time member of this list, and more importantly, and
>>>> artist and a teacher, I whole-heartedly support your response in this
>>>> thread. It is one thing to offer a disagreement over the merits of
>>>> presenting one work or another in a class, as well as to offer different
>>>> strategies that have been successful in the past when presenting this work,
>>>> but someone who seems to not know you personally did exactly what you
>>>> named: attacked your ability as a teacher, and dictated your responsibility
>>>> to your students. You have every right to respond directly, and publicly,
>>>> to this criticism, not matter who it's coming from (though you don't need
>>>> me, or anyone else to tell you that). I find it shameful that your response
>>>> has been made out to be the cause of the return to flameworks.
>>>>
>>>> Jason Halprin
>>>> jihalprin at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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