[Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood
Rob Gawthrop
rob at robgawthrop.co.uk
Wed Apr 1 18:50:19 UTC 2015
More critical debate about what films to recommend to be introduced to, and discussed and less affected fallacies.
But … Sam Taylor-Wood - glossy Warhol derived, made easy for the international art market, and what has she made recently? that great call to feminism with her 50 shades of what? (and its not even monochrome).
Rob
On 1 Apr 2015, at 19:01, Greg DeCuir <g
decuir at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm with you Kelly and everything you're saying, even though I have only followed this thread intermittently. A bit more maturity and understanding on all sides seems like it would not hurt.
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> For what it is worth, and in my humble opinion, Sadie Benning's "It Wasn't Love" is one of the greatest works of cinema I have ever seen, barring no one and nothing. It will always have a special place in my own personal canon, which I only hope is out of step with accepted/entrenched/official ones.
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> Cordially,
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> Greg de Cuir, Jr
> Selector/Curator, Alternative Film/Video Belgrade
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> From: Kelly Gallagher <kelly at purpleriot.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood
>
> Sasha, I appreciate your intelligent and helpful response bringing some radical women filmmakers into the original post. Sometimes many people in this space seem to get very stuck on notions of the canon which means that important work like that of Sadie Benning and Hito Steyerl gets swiped aside. As a young woman experimental filmmaker I appreciate your challenging and provoking comments in your original post.
> As a young woman experimental filmmaker I also stand fervently and explicitly against sexist and patronizing comments, tone, and antagonizing. I'm a little taken aback that more people haven't loudly and explicitly critiqued the sexism and sexist patronizing/condescension that was thrown at Sasha and I'm kind of surprised and disappointed. Frameworks will continue to lose many radical and important filmmakers, thinkers, and feminists, especially many young filmmakers, over deplorable vitriol such as what's played out here in this incident.
> In solidarity with Sasha, Kim, and all women filmmakers in experimental spaces who demand to stop being condescended to.
> -Kelly
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> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tim Halloran <televisual at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Calm down.
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> Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.
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> Tim
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Mar 31, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> gene owes no fucking apology in any way
>>
>> you on the other hand need to do some hefty work on yourself - obliviousness to self critique is a frightening place to even witness
>>
>> a hearty fuck off to you sasha
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:08 PM, chris bravo <iamdirect at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>"Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to "Wavelength""
>>
>> your rhetoric wasn't "excessive" it was offensive.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Sasha Waters Freyer <swfreyer at vcu.edu> wrote:
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>> Mr. Youngblood,
>>
>> Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to "Wavelength" offended you. However, turning a critical disagreement over a 48-year-old film is no excuse to attack my ability as a teacher or to dictate my "responsibility" to my students. I will chalk this exchange up to your passion for Snow's work, and not an inherent rudeness of your character. I accept your apology in advance.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>>
>> Sasha Waters Freyer
>>
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>> 1. Re: VSW - to your attention! (Bernard Roddy)
>> 2. Looking to purchase a JK Optical Printer (Christopher Harris)
>> 3. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
>> Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> (Bernard Roddy)
>> 4. 3 sound works (Bernard Roddy)
>> 5. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
>> Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> (director at lift.on.ca)
>> 6. Re: VSW - to your attention! (Amanda Christie)
>> 7. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
>> Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> (Kelly Gallagher)
>> 8. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
>> Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> (Francisco Torres)
>> 9. TONIGHT 3.30 7pm - Jonas Mekas "365 Day Project - Part 3 -
>> March" at Microscope, Mekas in person w. pizza and rootbeer
>> (LBurchill)
>> 10. Re: 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show
>> Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> (George, Sherman)
>> 11. New photo essay posted to flickr (Emile Tobenfeld)
>> 12. ed Reflections of Life: American Indian and Indigenous
>> filmmaker screening series this week at California Institute of
>> the Arts. (Nate Cummings)
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bernard Roddy <roddybp at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:51:36 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] VSW - to your attention!
>> Squeaky Wheel in Buffalo.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Amanda Christie <amanda at amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing Walter!
>>
>> I also have a question on a similar subject for the group.
>>
>> I'm going to be doing a radio-art residency in upstate new york next fall (late October), and I was thinking of driving down with a few 16mm projectors and a bunch of my prints... I thought it might be nice to set up a sort of mini-road-trip-style-film-tour while I'm in the region (either on my way to or from the residency). I can do screenings, performances, and / or teach some workshops. In addition to films, I will also be travelling with theremins, radio gear, and basic electronics, so I could also teach workshops in those fields too if anyone is interested. I'll definitely get in touch with Tara at VSW.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone on the list have other recommendations of places or people to talk to? I've never set anything like this up before, but I figure, that since I'll have a car, and films, and projectors... why not?
>>
>> Any suggestions of places or people to contact in the New York state or surrounding areas would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks so much!
>>
>>
>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>> --------------------------------
>> 506-871-2062
>> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
>> amanda at amandadawnchristie.ca
>> _______________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-03-29, at 3:56 PM, Walter Ungerer wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>>
>>> I’d like to draw your attention to the Visual Studies Workshop in Rochester, New York. It’s a study facility for film and photography. Last week I had a film showing there of my more recent work. First, I’d like to thank Tara Nelson for offering the venue to me to show my work. Quite wonderful. The facility has excellent projection and sound equipment and a large screen. Tara’s husband Gordon Nelson (audio engineer), and Tara’s assistant Ray Ray Mitrano (public relations) effectively completed the staff . I’ll add a probing and very appreciative audience to my description, as a culmination of my presentation.
>>>
>>> I would send this message of appreciation privately to Tara, but it would not draw attention to the Visual Studies Workshop facility for the listserv. As an artist I am always looking for opportunities to exhibit my work, and I imagine many of you on this list, are in a similar place. Therefore I highly recommend contacting Tara Nelson at VSW for more information about film screenings there. Not to forget, nearby is the George Eastman House, another drove of archival material on film and photography.
>>>
>>> Thanks all for reading.
>>> Walter Ungerer
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> From: Christopher Harris <charris91 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:57:34 +0000
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Looking to purchase a JK Optical Printer
>> Hello Frameworks,
>>
>> I am looking to purchase a used JK Optical Printer in very good to excellent condition. If you know of anyone or an institution in possession of a printer that is slitting around collecting dust please let me know if they are interested in selling it. I am looking to finalize a purchase within weeks depending on how long it takes to locate. If I am unable to do so I will go ahead and purchase directly from Jaako who is still making them (at least as of now) despite reports to the contrary. I prefer to purchase a used one in excellent condition because Jaako's price is more than I'd like to pay but I will pay his price for a new one if I don't find another option soon.
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>> Thanks.
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>> CH
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bernard Roddy <roddybp at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:11:31 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> Go Sasha!
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net> wrote:
>> The original question is so absurd that I almost didn’t respond, but i did, only to make the point that, within such a restricted frame, you don’t start with specific films, you start with possibilities: Isn’t it exciting that you can make an “abstract” work, or a minimal one, or you can compose an essay? What do those words mean? How have artists interpreted them? And isn’t it exciting that you can combine all of them, which is the thin edge of the interventionist wedge today. Another point: mid-century isn’t synonymous with Modernism; it’s simply when the new American cinema began in full force.
>>
>> I showed Wavelength and Nostalgia for 38 years, in both fine arts and mainstream contexts, and never once did my students, as a group, “want to kill themselves.” No one who is truly “curious” and “excited” would have such a response. It’s an admission of failure (if not laziness, cowardice or outright betrayal) as a teacher. Your responsibility is to make them curious, to make them excited. Out of 60 students every semester from the late 90s on, I could count on at least 10 percent of them writing term papers on one or both of those films, and these were people who thought Spielberg is a genius.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Andy Ditzler <andy at andyditzler.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Without getting into questions of "essential," I would say that this is not my experience at all with screening Wavelength. My students - definitely curious and excited people - generally loved watching it, and there was much productive discussion. I've also shown it publicly in my film series on several occasions, again with good results and much discussion afterward (though of course the reactions were not uniformly positive). You see it as mid-century high modernism (thus presumably representing a fixed, "major" tradition), whereas I see it as a film particularly vulnerable to attacks based precisely upon its difference, which is perhaps one reason I'm sympathetic to it. In any case, there's no reason that screenings of this film cannot be deeply sensuous and engaging experiences, especially for artists.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy Ditzler
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Sasha Waters Freyer <swfreyer at vcu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want to take a group of curious, excited young artists and basically make them want to kill themselves, by all means, show them "Wavelength." I call shenanigans on equating "essential" with mid-century high modernism which is but one of many 'major traditions.' Another, more engaging legacy might be the fascinating intersections between art history, critical theory, politics and popular culture that coalesces and build in the '90-s and early 00s, exemplified in different but totally exciting and unique ways by:
>>>
>>> "It Wasn't Love" - Sadie Benning
>>> "November" - Hito Steyerl
>>> "A Little Death" - Sam Taylor-Wood
>>>
>>> So much richness here! Relationships between realism and (high/post) modernism; identity/queer performance pre-youtube/selfie era; the explosion of new tech in the 90s on and their formal implications; post-9/11 everything; the 'Celebrity-artist' career trajectory of STW, etc., etc, etc....
>>>
>>>
>>> Sasha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡
>>>
>>> Sasha Waters Freyer
>>> Chair, Department of Photography & Film
>>> VCU School of the Arts
>>> 325 N. Harrison St. / PO Box 843088
>>> Richmond, VA 23284
>>>
>>> tel. 804.828.2162
>>> email: swfreyer at vcu.edu
>>> http://www.arts.vcu.edu/photofilm/
>>>
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>>>
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>>> --
>>>
>>> Andy Ditzler
>>> www.filmlove.org
>>> www.johnq.org
>>> Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bernard Roddy <roddybp at yahoo.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:42:26 -0500
>> Subject: [Frameworks] 3 sound works
>>
>>
>> Did I mention the course in which I included a section on sound? Three works I played:
>>
>> Tony Conrad with Faust, Outside the Dream Syndicate
>> Alvin Lucier, Music for Solo Performer
>> Yasunao Tone, Musica Iconologos
>>
>> I dare anyone on this list to play Tone for more than 5 minutes!
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: director at lift.on.ca
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:02:14 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> It did strike me as odd that very few people mentioned anything recent.
>> >From the context described it would seem that you would want to show work
>> that could inspire people to immediately "do" and sometimes that's a more
>> contemporary film. Two good filmmakers for that kind of inspiration, from
>> a film perspective, are Ute Aurand and Helga Faenderl--for camerawork,
>> editing in camera and (for Ute) editing. It really depends on how fast you
>> want to get to the makin' stage.
>>
>> On the flip, I think its tricky to rely on contemporary work to show the
>> way. I have students react very badly to work from the 90s that I loved
>> but didn't age well, while they were totally taken with that mid-century
>> modernism "crap" (wavelength, nostalgia et al.). They much preferred
>> watching Katzelmacher to Wall-E (which is what another teacher was showing
>> them). I think its really what you stand behind as a teacher and are able
>> to lead them through that's important--"use-value" above connection.
>>
>> Two years ago, students couldn't stand a guy called Ryan Trecartin. Go
>> figure.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> > Go Sasha!
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> The original question is so absurd that I almost didn’t respond, but i
>> >> did, only to make the point that, within such a restricted frame, you
>> >> don’t
>> >> start with specific films, you start with possibilities: Isn’t it
>> >> exciting
>> >> that you can make an “abstract” work, or a minimal one, or you can
>> >> compose
>> >> an essay? What do those words mean? How have artists interpreted them?
>> >> And
>> >> isn’t it exciting that you can combine all of them, which is the thin
>> >> edge
>> >> of the interventionist wedge today. Another point: mid-century isn’t
>> >> synonymous with Modernism; it’s simply when the new American cinema
>> >> began
>> >> in full force.
>> >>
>> >> I showed Wavelength and Nostalgia for 38 years, in both fine arts and
>> >> mainstream contexts, and never once did my students, as a group, “want
>> >> to
>> >> kill themselves.” No one who is truly “curious” and “excited”
>> >> would have
>> >> such a response. It’s an admission of failure (if not laziness,
>> >> cowardice
>> >> or outright betrayal) as a teacher. Your responsibility is to make them
>> >> curious, to make them excited. Out of 60 students every semester from
>> >> the
>> >> late 90s on, I could count on at least 10 percent of them writing term
>> >> papers on one or both of those films, and these were people who thought
>> >> Spielberg is a genius.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 29, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Andy Ditzler <andy at andyditzler.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Without getting into questions of "essential," I would say that this is
>> >> not my experience at all with screening Wavelength. My students -
>> >> definitely curious and excited people - generally loved watching it, and
>> >> there was much productive discussion. I've also shown it publicly in my
>> >> film series on several occasions, again with good results and much
>> >> discussion afterward (though of course the reactions were not uniformly
>> >> positive). You see it as mid-century high modernism (thus presumably
>> >> representing a fixed, "major" tradition), whereas I see it as a film
>> >> particularly vulnerable to attacks based precisely upon its
>> >> *difference*,
>> >> which is perhaps one reason I'm sympathetic to it. In any case, there's
>> >> no
>> >> reason that screenings of this film cannot be deeply sensuous and
>> >> engaging
>> >> experiences, especially for artists.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Andy Ditzler
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Sasha Waters Freyer <swfreyer at vcu.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> If you want to take a group of curious, excited young artists and
>> >>> basically make them want to kill themselves, by all means, show them
>> >>> "Wavelength." I call shenanigans on equating "essential" with
>> >>> mid-century
>> >>> high modernism which is but one of many 'major traditions.' Another,
>> >>> more
>> >>> engaging legacy might be the fascinating intersections between art
>> >>> history,
>> >>> critical theory, politics and popular culture that coalesces and build
>> >>> in
>> >>> the '90-s and early 00s, exemplified in different but totally exciting
>> >>> and
>> >>> unique ways by:
>> >>>
>> >>> "It Wasn't Love" - Sadie Benning
>> >>> "November" - Hito Steyerl
>> >>> "A Little Death" - Sam Taylor-Wood
>> >>>
>> >>> So much richness here! Relationships between realism and (high/post)
>> >>> modernism; identity/queer performance pre-youtube/selfie era; the
>> >>> explosion
>> >>> of new tech in the 90s on and their formal implications; post-9/11
>> >>> everything; the 'Celebrity-artist' career trajectory of STW, etc., etc,
>> >>> etc....
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sasha
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> ‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡
>> >>>
>> >>> Sasha Waters Freyer
>> >>> Chair, Department of Photography & Film
>> >>> VCU School of the Arts
>> >>> 325 N. Harrison St. / PO Box 843088
>> >>> Richmond, VA 23284
>> >>>
>> >>> tel. 804.828.2162
>> >>> email: swfreyer at vcu.edu
>> >>> http://www.arts.vcu.edu/photofilm/
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> >>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Andy Ditzler
>> >> www.filmlove.org
>> >> www.johnq.org
>> >> Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> FrameWorks mailing list
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Amanda Christie <amanda at amandadawnchristie.ca>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:45:03 -0300
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] VSW - to your attention!
>> Thanks Jason!
>>
>> I'm open to exploring screening and workshop options in various regions of the state as well, and possibly even neighbooring states and provinces too if people have suggestions.
>>
>> The residency is at a place called "The Wave Farm" (https://wavefarm.org/) located between Cairo, Hudson, and the Catskills. I'm open to taking some time and travelling around the state, down to NYC, Buffalo, Ithaca, even out of state to Ohio if there are options there. I'll be driving up from New Brunswick, so depending on options for stops for screenings and workshops, I could cross the border in in Maine from St. Andrews NB, or Woodstock, NB.... or I could travel up through Quebec and Ontario.... depending on what gets lined up. Possibilities could be throughout New York State, Maine, or even Quebec, and Ontario.
>>
>> Looking forward to driving through the countries with some projectors and films à-la-Jill-Kerouac... (no jack here... but a jill).
>>
>>
>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>> --------------------------------
>> 506-871-2062
>> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
>> amanda at amandadawnchristie.ca
>> _______________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-03-29, at 6:45 PM, Jason Halprin wrote:
>>
>>> A short list to start with:
>>>
>>> Squeaky Wheel, Buffalo
>>> Pittsburgh Filmmakers (pretty close to Buffalo)
>>> Cornell Cinema, Ithaca
>>> Hamilton College, Clinton NY (try contacting Scott MacDonald)
>>> Colgate University, Hamilton NY
>>> Binghamton University
>>>
>>> -Jason Halprin
>>>
>>> Jason Halprin
>>> jihalprin at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Amanda Christie <amanda at amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
>>> Thanks for sharing Walter!
>>>
>>> I also have a question on a similar subject for the group.
>>>
>>> I'm going to be doing a radio-art residency in upstate new york next fall (late October), and I was thinking of driving down with a few 16mm projectors and a bunch of my prints... I thought it might be nice to set up a sort of mini-road-trip-style-film-tour while I'm in the region (either on my way to or from the residency). I can do screenings, performances, and / or teach some workshops. In addition to films, I will also be travelling with theremins, radio gear, and basic electronics, so I could also teach workshops in those fields too if anyone is interested. I'll definitely get in touch with Tara at VSW.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone on the list have other recommendations of places or people to talk to? I've never set anything like this up before, but I figure, that since I'll have a car, and films, and projectors... why not?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions of places or people to contact in the New York state or surrounding areas would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much!
>>>
>>>
>>> Amanda Dawn Christie
>>> --------------------------------
>>> 506-871-2062
>>> www.amandadawnchristie.ca
>>> amanda at amandadawnchristie.ca
>>> _______________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-03-29, at 3:56 PM, Walter Ungerer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>>>
>>>> I’d like to draw your attention to the Visual Studies Workshop in Rochester, New York. It’s a study facility for film and photography. Last week I had a film showing there of my more recent work. First, I’d like to thank Tara Nelson for offering the venue to me to show my work. Quite wonderful. The facility has excellent projection and sound equipment and a large screen. Tara’s husband Gordon Nelson (audio engineer), and Tara’s assistant Ray Ray Mitrano (public relations) effectively completed the staff . I’ll add a probing and very appreciative audience to my description, as a culmination of my presentation.
>>>>
>>>> I would send this message of appreciation privately to Tara, but it would not draw attention to the Visual Studies Workshop facility for the listserv. As an artist I am always looking for opportunities to exhibit my work, and I imagine many of you on this list, are in a similar place. Therefore I highly recommend contacting Tara Nelson at VSW for more information about film screenings there. Not to forget, nearby is the George Eastman House, another drove of archival material on film and photography.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all for reading.
>>>> Walter Ungerer
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> FrameWorks mailing list
>>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks mailing list
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>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FrameWorks mailing list
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>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Kelly Gallagher <kelly at purpleriot.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:14:49 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> Ooo excellent list Sasha. Formidable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:48:17 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> ''If you want to take a group of curious, excited young artists and basically make them want to kill themselves, by all means, show them "Wavelength." ''
>>
>> This gave me an idea for a film. It would be titled-
>>
>> ''If Wavelength tires them what would La Region Central do?''
>>
>> I first saw Wavelength at age 19 and it did not made me feel like killing myself but to take a Bolex and make something as weird as it.... Guess it had to do with the fact that it was 1980.
>>
>> 2015-03-30 14:14 GMT-04:00 Kelly Gallagher <kelly at purpleriot.com>:
>> Ooo excellent list Sasha. Formidable.
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>> From: LBurchill <elle.burchill at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:13:43 -0400
>> Subject: [Frameworks] TONIGHT 3.30 7pm - Jonas Mekas "365 Day Project - Part 3 - March" at Microscope, Mekas in person w. pizza and rootbeer
>> admission $6 - free for members
>>
>> Microscope is very pleased to announce the premiere of PART THREE “March” from Jonas Mekas’ “365 Day Project” as the third of a 12-part program, screened at the end of each month, comprising the nearly 38-hour long video project. For the year of 2007, Mekas challenged himself to make and upload a video on his website each day, at times repurposing or incorporating previously unseen footage from his earlier 16mm films and analog videos.
>>
>> Originally each of the videos, ranging from 30 seconds to 30 minutes, were made available for download and playable on smartphones at a time when Facebook had just been made publicly accessible, Youtube had just been acquired by Google, and the first iPhone was about to be released later that year.
>>
>> Among the many highlights of Part Three (Days 60 – 90) are Madonna concert at Madison Square Garden, Peter Kubelka playing a Tibetan gong, Jonas seeking “silence please”, a drink with Zoe Lund at the Mars Bar, snowballs, saunas and a dip in a freezing lake in Tampere Finland, and a requiem for a broken tree in Brooklyn.
>>
>> “Every day of the year 2007 I placed on my website one new video usually about three to ten minutes in length. By the time the project ended, I had made 38 hours of completed video works, the equivalent of twenty feature films… It was the most challenging undertaking I had ever done. The videos deal with my life in Brooklyn and my many travels of that year. It’s personal and anthropological (impersonal) at the same time. During my travels I relied a lot on technical and other help from The Gang (Benn Northover, Sebastian Mekas — I travel most of the time with The Gang) and Elle Burchill was always ready at my Brooklyn station. You’ll see a lot of me and my friends, various daily activities, gettings together, a lot of music, and a lot of events around New York and Europe that year. The main challenge was to record it and share it immediately with many friends all over the world. Today I still do the same, but not daily, with less pressure, on my website www.jonasmekas.com”
>> - Jonas Mekas
>>
>> more info: www.microscopegallery.com
>>
>> Microscope Gallery, 1329 Willoughby Ave, #2b, Brooklyn, NY 11237
>> tel: 347.925.1433, info at microscopegallery.com
>>
>> We are located at the Jefferson L (Starr Street exit), walk up slope, left on Willoughby, mid-block at little tree, enter through open entrance.
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "George, Sherman" <sgeorge at ucsd.edu>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:37:19 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?
>> Standish Lawder would show “Wavelength” to his “History of Cinema” class and as the lights came up in the classroom he would go to the lectern and announce “Wasn’t that great, let’s watch it again”
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ''If you want to take a group of curious, excited young artists and basically make them want to kill themselves, by all means, show them "Wavelength." ''
>>>
>>> This gave me an idea for a film. It would be titled-
>>>
>>> ''If Wavelength tires them what would La Region Central do?''
>>>
>>> I first saw Wavelength at age 19 and it did not made me feel like killing myself but to take a Bolex and make something as weird as it.... Guess it had to do with the fact that it was 1980.
>>>
>>> 2015-03-30 14:14 GMT-04:00 Kelly Gallagher <kelly at purpleriot.com>:
>>> Ooo excellent list Sasha. Formidable.
>>>
>>>
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>> Sherman George
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Emile Tobenfeld <emile at foryourhead.com>
>> To: DrTVideo <DrTVideo at egroups.com>
>> Cc: iotacenter at egroups.com, eyecandy at egroups.com, "Frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com List" <Frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>, atari-midi at yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 00:26:52 -0400
>> Subject: [Frameworks] New photo essay posted to flickr
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just posted a new photo album, "Glass Bricks at Harvard" to flickr at https://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157651248971089
>>
>> Glass brick walls make excellent photo subjects. The symmetrical pattern of the bricks plays off of the distorted images of the other side of the wall, which vary from brick to brick and change as you move your head or camera.
>>
>> On March 15, I went with my friend Eva Arnott (seen about halfway through the set) to the Harvard Art Museums. We stopped at the Carpenter Center along the way, and took these pictures. I could have taken a lot more, but we wanted to have enough time at the museum.
>>
>> -- Emile
>>
>> When the going gets tough, the tough go dancing.
>>
>> My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/
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>> My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld
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>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Nate Cummings <ncummingslambert at gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 00:02:35 -0700
>> Subject: [Frameworks] ed Reflections of Life: American Indian and Indigenous filmmaker screening series this week at California Institute of the Arts.
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>
>> Thank you for your help and interest when I posted several weeks ago asking for suggestions for American Indian and Indigenous filmmakers.
>>
>> I am proud to share with you details of the series (though I apologize for being late on this)
>>
>> RED REFLECTIONS OF LIFE
>> Los Angeles College (LAC) and the Institute for American Indian and Indigenous Art and Media (IAIIAM) proudly present Red Reflections of Life film series this week at California Institute of the Arts. We will screen over 600 minutes of film and video by contemporary indigenous artists this Monday (3/30) thru Friday (4/3). Red Reflections of Life borrows its name from artist and Cal Arts alum Richard Ray Whitman (Yuchi/Creek). As a young student of painting and film, Whitman participated in a documentary produced by the Institute of American Indian Arts titled "Red Reflections" (1969). He continued working with community driven films, ultimately developing a mixed-media body of work critiquing U.S. aggression toward cultural, political, and institutional sovereignty of American Indians. His interrogation of Native American survival is too mirrored in his dedication to social work and form of creative practice.
>>
>> Red Reflections of Life echoes Whitman's urgency and refusal of cultural and institutional mores. Our goals include expansion of American Indian work in both academic and creative discourse, investigation of multiplicities of American Indian narrative(s), and destabilization of conventional history telling and memory making.
>>
>>
>> RED REFLECTIONS OF LIFE SCHEDULE
>> MON 3.30.15 - FRI 4.3.15
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>> Mon 3.30 // A COMMON EXPERIENCE
>> 7:00 - 9:00 PM
>> Gallery A402
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>> Tues 3.31 // LIVING ARCHITECTURE
>> 7:00 - 9:00 PM
>> Gallery A402
>>
>> Wed 4.1 // HOW A PEOPLE LIVE
>> 1:00 - 4:00 PM
>> Bijou Theater
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>> Thurs 4.2 // INTREPID SHADOWS
>> 9:00 - 10:45 PM
>> Gallery A402
>>
>> Fri 4.3 // 270 YEARS OF RESISTANCE
>> 1:00 - 4:00 PM
>> Bijou Theater
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