[Frameworks] titles of Scratch films

Wed Aug 26 12:10:19 UTC 2015

And for Norman McLaren, in addition to the already mentioned Blinkety Blank, there’s Lines Vertical and Lines Horizontal.

On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:03 AM, steven woloshen <swoloshen at hotmail.com<mailto:swoloshen at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,
I know you've said "Free Radicals" There is also my " Didre Novo" 16 mm. 2 min. 30 secs

best,

Steven Woloshen
https://scratchatopia.wordpress.com/

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> 1. Titles of scratch films (Tess Takahashi)
> 2. Re: Titles of scratch films (Tess Takahashi)
> 3. Re: Titles of scratch films (Scott MacDonald)
> 4. Re: Titles of scratch films (Beebe, Roger W.)
> 5. Re: Titles of scratch films (marilyn brakhage)
> 6. Re: Titles of scratch films (William Wees, Dr.)
> 7. Re: Titles of scratch films (Edo)
> 8. Re: Titles of scratch films (robert harris)
> 9. Re: Titles of scratch films (Carl E Bogner)
> 10. Re: Titles of scratch films (Warren Cockerham)
> 11. Re: Titles of scratch films (Patrick Friel)
> 12. Re: Titles of scratch films (Warren Cockerham)
> 13. Re: Titles of scratch films (Beebe, Roger W.)
> 14. Re: Titles of scratch films (Patrick Friel)
> 15. Re: Titles of scratch films (Vicky Smith5)
> 16. Re: Titles of scratch films (Michael Betancourt)
> 17. Re: Titles of scratch films (Ruth Hayes)
> 18. Re: FrameWorks Digest, Vol 63, Issue 23 (Amanda Vincelli)
> 19. Re: Titles of scratch films (חן שינברג)
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> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:08:38 -0400
> From: Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
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> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
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> What am I missing? Old and New?
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> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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> From: Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
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> oh, and Su Friedrich's Gently Down the Stream
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> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> > like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> > Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> > work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
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> From: Scott MacDonald <smacdona at hamilton.edu<mailto:smacdona at hamilton.edu>>
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> *Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND.*
>
>
> *Robert Huot's SCRATCH*
>
>
> *Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED*
>
>
> *Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS*
>
> *I'll keep thinkin'*
>
> *Scott*
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> > like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> > Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> > work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
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> From: "Beebe, Roger W." <beebe.77 at osu.edu<mailto:beebe.77 at osu.edu>>
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> Sharits' S:TREAM:S:S:ECTION:S:ECTION:S:S:ECTIONED. And 8 billion other films. (This is going to end up being a LONG list.)
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Scott MacDonald <smacdona at hamilton.edu<mailto:smacdona at hamilton.edu>> wrote:
>
> > Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND.
> >
> > Robert Huot's SCRATCH
> >
> > Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED
> >
> > Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS
> >
> > I'll keep thinkin'
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
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> From: marilyn brakhage <vams at shaw.ca<mailto:vams at shaw.ca>>
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> Some other Brakhage films that employ scratching: earliest example
> (briefly) is in "Reflections On Black" (1955); later, more
> substantially, in "He was born, he suffered, he died" (1974); and
> later yet, several films with words scratched over image, "I . . .
> Dreaming" (1988), "For Marilyn" (1992) and "Night Mulch and
> Very" (2001). And there was the Ellipses series of so-called
> "scratch and stain films" : ". . . " Reels One to Five (1998).
>
> Marilyn Brakhage
>
>
> On 25-Aug-15, at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote:
>
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on
> > celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant
> > Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's
> > work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len
> > Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> From: "William Wees, Dr." <william.wees at mcgill.ca<mailto:william.wees at mcgill.ca>>
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> Hi, Tess—
>
> Norman McLaren, “Blinkity Blank.” Maybe some other McLaren films?
>
> --Bill
>
>
> From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Tess Takahashi
> Sent: August 25, 2015 3:09 PM
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> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> What am I missing? Old and New?
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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> From: Edo <edo.choi87 at gmail.com<mailto:edo.choi87 at gmail.com>>
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> Tess, I think Pat O'Neill's COREOPSIS also employed scratching.
>
> On 8/25/15 4:11 PM, William Wees, Dr. wrote:
> > Hi, Tess—
> >
> >
> >
> > Norman McLaren, “Blinkity Blank.” Maybe some other McLaren films?
> >
> >
> >
> > --Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:*FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *Tess Takahashi
> > *Sent:* August 25, 2015 3:09 PM
> > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> > *Subject:* [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on
> > celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant
> > Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work,
> > Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free
> > Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:25:23 -0400
> From: robert harris <lagonaboba at gmail.com<mailto:lagonaboba at gmail.com>>
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> Much of Aldo Tambellini’s early film work:
>
> Black Is
> Blackout
>
> and others
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Scott MacDonald <smacdona at hamilton.edu<mailto:smacdona at hamilton.edu>> wrote:
>
> > Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND.
> >
> > Robert Huot's SCRATCH
> >
> > Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED
> >
> > Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS
> >
> > I'll keep thinkin'
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
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> Tess, hi -
>
>
> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn't let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it.
>
>
> I overstate but Naz Dincel's practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film "Her Silent Seaming" -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
>
>
> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.)
>
>
> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in "A Lecture," its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from "Lana Turner" to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
>
>
> What's with Roger Beebe's premature fatigue? Man!
>
>
> Carl
>
> Milwaukee
>
>
>
>
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> From: FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com>> on behalf of Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
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> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
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> What am I missing? Old and New?
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> From: Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<mailto:warrencockerham at gmail.com>>
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> Paul Bush <http://www.paulbushfilms.com/films/scratchingdiagram.htm>
>
> Zig Zag (1994) by Ricard Reeves <https://vimeo.com/8713615>
>
> there are MANY MANY more out there. I believe there's a section in Cecile
> Starr and Robert Russett's Experimental Animation book... right?
>
> good luck,
> Warren
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> > like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> > Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> > work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> From: Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>>
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> Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
>
> Naomi Uman¹s Removed (1999)
>
> Isidore Isou¹s Venom and Eternity (1951)
>
> But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
>
>
> Patrick F.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" <crlelbog at uwm.edu<mailto:crlelbog at uwm.edu>> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tess, hi -
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor,
> > who wouldn¹t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had
> > scratched on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I overstate but Naz Dincel¹s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her
> > film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film ³Her
> > Silent Seaming² -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this
> > year and also screened at Images, among other places.
> >
> >
> >
> > (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list?
> > Naz, contact Tess.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in ³A
> > Lecture,² its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is
> > about from ³Lana Turner² to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
> >
> >
> >
> > What¹s with Roger Beebe¹s premature fatigue? Man!
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > Milwaukee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com>> on behalf of Tess
> > Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> >
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like
> > Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's
> > World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm
> > DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> From: Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<mailto:warrencockerham at gmail.com>>
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> Hey Patrick (and Tess)..
>
> I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years
> too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish
> to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many
> months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there
> are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film
> and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image.
>
> hope that helps,
> Warren
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>>
> wrote:
>
> > Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
> >
> > Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)
> >
> > Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)
> >
> > But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
> >
> >
> > Patrick F.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" <crlelbog at uwm.edu<mailto:crlelbog at uwm.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tess, hi -
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann
> > Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she
> > had scratched on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on
> > her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film
> > “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at
> > FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
> >
> >
> >
> > (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list?
> > Naz, contact Tess.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A
> > Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is
> > about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
> >
> >
> >
> > What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > Milwaukee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com>> on behalf of
> > Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> > *Subject:* [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> >
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> > like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> > Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> > work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> From: "Beebe, Roger W." <beebe.77 at osu.edu<mailto:beebe.77 at osu.edu>>
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> But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t…
>
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<mailto:warrencockerham at gmail.com><mailto:warrencockerham at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey Patrick (and Tess)..
>
> I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image.
>
> hope that helps,
> Warren
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net><mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>> wrote:
> Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
>
> Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)
>
> Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)
>
> But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
>
>
> Patrick F.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" <crlelbog at uwm.edu<mailto:crlelbog at uwm.edu><http://crlelbog@uwm.edu/>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Tess, hi -
>
>
>
> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it.
>
>
>
> I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
>
>
>
> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.)
>
>
>
> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
>
>
>
> What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!
>
>
>
> Carl
>
> Milwaukee
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com><http://frameworks-bounces@jonasmekasfilms.com/>> on behalf of Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com><http://tess.takahashi@gmail.com/>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>
> What am I missing? Old and New?
>
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:38:33 -0500
> From: Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>>
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> ³Chemical Scratching² - I¹m sticking to that. Yeah.
>
>
>
> On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, "Beebe, Roger W." <beebe.77 at osu.edu<mailto:beebe.77 at osu.edu>> wrote:
>
> > But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn¹tŠ
> >
> > On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<mailto:warrencockerham at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Patrick (and Tess)..
> >>
> >> I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too.
> >> But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the
> >> parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months.
> >> Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint
> >> images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and
> >> crevices on the other parts of the image.
> >>
> >> hope that helps,
> >> Warren
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>> wrote:
> >>> Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
> >>>
> >>> Naomi Uman¹s Removed (1999)
> >>>
> >>> Isidore Isou¹s Venom and Eternity (1951)
> >>>
> >>> But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Patrick F.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" <crlelbog at uwm.edu<mailto:crlelbog at uwm.edu>
> >>> <http://crlelbog@uwm.edu/> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tess, hi -
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann
> >>>> Arbor, who wouldn¹t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she
> >>>> had scratched on it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I overstate but Naz Dincel¹s practice relentlessly involves scratching on
> >>>> her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film
> >>>> ³Her Silent Seaming² -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at
> >>>> FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list?
> >>>> Naz, contact Tess.)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in ³A
> >>>> Lecture,² its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is
> >>>> about from ³Lana Turner² to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What¹s with Roger Beebe¹s premature fatigue? Man!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Carl
> >>>>
> >>>> Milwaukee
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> >>>> <http://frameworks-bounces@jonasmekasfilms.com/> > on behalf of Tess
> >>>> Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com> <http://tess.takahashi@gmail.com/> >
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> >>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> >>>> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> >>>> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> >>>> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >>>>
> >>>> What am I missing? Old and New?
> >>>>
> >>>> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list
> >>>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com> <http://FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com/>
> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
> >>>
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> >>
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> From: Vicky Smith5 <VSmith5 at students.ucreative.ac.uk<mailto:VSmith5 at students.ucreative.ac.uk>>
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> Schneeman's Fuses has some scratching of photographed film. Also in this vein there is Peyote Queen by Storm de Hirsch. There are expanded animation works by for e.g. Greg Pope, Bruce McClure, Dirk de Bruyn - all of whom employ scratching of and removal of emulsion. For my own part I am currently scratching into fogged 16mm neg, although I am rubbing more than scratching to create the effect of soft shapes rather than jagged lines,
>
> Vicky
> ________________________________
> From: FrameWorks [frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com>] on behalf of Patrick Friel [patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:38 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>
> “Chemical Scratching” - I’m sticking to that. Yeah.
>
>
>
> On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, "Beebe, Roger W." <beebe.77 at osu.edu<mailto:beebe.77 at osu.edu><UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
>
> But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t…
>
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<mailto:warrencockerham at gmail.com><UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
>
> Hey Patrick (and Tess)..
>
> I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image.
>
> hope that helps,
> Warren
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net><UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
> Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
>
> Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)
>
> Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)
>
> But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
>
>
> Patrick F.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" <crlelbog at uwm.edu<mailto:crlelbog at uwm.edu><UrlBlockedError.aspx> <http://crlelbog@uwm.edu/> > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Tess, hi -
>
>
>
> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it.
>
>
>
> I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
>
>
>
> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.)
>
>
>
> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
>
>
>
> What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!
>
>
>
> Carl
>
> Milwaukee
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com><UrlBlockedError.aspx> <http://frameworks-bounces@jonasmekasfilms.com/> > on behalf of Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com><UrlBlockedError.aspx> <http://tess.takahashi@gmail.com/> >
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>
> What am I missing? Old and New?
>
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> From: Michael Betancourt <hinterland.movies at gmail.com<mailto:hinterland.movies at gmail.com>>
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> There's Rey Parla's films from the 90s:
> Sporadic Germinatipn
> Rumba Abstracta
>
> M
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > FrameWorks mailing list
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:58:25 -0700
> From: Ruth Hayes <randomruth at comcast.net<mailto:randomruth at comcast.net>>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> Message-ID: <3AF72A5D-06B6-490D-9718-E85760995B49 at comcast.net<mailto:3AF72A5D-06B6-490D-9718-E85760995B49 at comcast.net>>
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> Hi Tess,
>
> I and other members of Olympia, WA. Crackpot Crafters (Devon Damonte, Jason Gutz, Eric Sarai, Meg Myhre, and several others) have been doing a lot of scratching on 16mm and 35, among other techniques, but not necessarily completing them as finished "films." More likely projecting loops of them in live performance venues as expanded cinema. We have a Facebook page with some clips and images, and I've posted some of my loops to my vimeo page. (www.vimeo.com/ruthhayes<http://www.vimeo.com/ruthhayes>)
>
> You might also check out the chapter on Direct Animation in Maureen Furniss' Animation Bible for which Devon wrote a significant chunk, as I understand it!
>
> Best,
>
> Ruth
>
>
> http://www.randommotion.com<http://www.randommotion.com/>
> blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr<http://blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr>
>
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote:
>
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:00:10 -0700
> From: Amanda Vincelli <amanda.vincelli at gmail.com<mailto:amanda.vincelli at gmail.com>>
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 63, Issue 23
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> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:00 AM, frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-request at jonasmekasfilms.com> wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Auricon for sale (Scott Dorsey)
> > 2. Re: Auricon for sale (Roger D. Wilson)
> > 3. Re: Auricon for sale (Scott Dorsey)
> > 4. Non-Places: Beyond the Infinite (Péter Lichter)
> > 5. help! Looking for images (Jack Sargeant)
> >
> > From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com<mailto:kludge at panix.com>>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Auricon for sale
> > Date: August 24, 2015 at 7:38:10 AM PDT
> > To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > So... a local surplus dealer has an Auricon Cine-Voice. This is one of the
> > 100 foot cameras with optical sound galvos, and it is pretty much completely
> > original. It has not been retrofitted for mag heads, and it has not had the
> > top chopped off to put on a 400 foot magazine. To my mind these make it less
> > desirable but some collector somewhere might prefer it.
> >
> > It is in a kit with an RA-30 optical amplifier and all cables (although the
> > cables are old and should probably be rebuilt), and most importantly two
> > spare lamps which is a big deal since they aren't available. The finder is
> > missing but a replacement can probably be located. The body is painted
> > "WNOW-TV CHANNEL 49".
> >
> > The lens on it is a 1" Cooke Filmo lens, which is actually a beautiful,
> > beautiful lens and certainly the most interesting part of the kit to my mind.
> >
> > The dealer wants $2k for the whole kit, which I think is ludicrous, but I
> > think he is just fishing at that price and that he'll be willing to take
> > something a lot more reasonable.
> >
> > Oh, and I didn't apply power to the thing to check the motor although I
> > did turn the movement by hand. If you get this, don't run the motor until
> > you lube the movement or you are likely to tear up the cam which is probably
> > dry by now.
> >
> > here is the thing:
> > http://albederpccenter.com/product/auricon-cine-voice-16mm-sound-on-film-camera-cm-72/
> > If you talk to them tell them that I sent you.
> > --scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Roger D. Wilson" <rogerdwilson at sympatico.ca<mailto:rogerdwilson at sympatico.ca>>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Auricon for sale
> > Date: August 24, 2015 at 9:39:37 AM PDT
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> >
> >
> > I have this same model and bought the entire package camera, amplifier, power supply, original mic and headphones for 400.00 here in Canada. It's works and I have already shot soles tuff on it! I 2000 is absolutely ridiculous. My model does have the 400' mag option as well. They are great to have but get the guy to drop the price by about 1200/1500 dollars.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > Sent from Outlook
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM -0700, "Scott Dorsey" <kludge at panix.com<mailto:kludge at panix.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > So... a local surplus dealer has an Auricon Cine-Voice. This is one of the
> > 100 foot cameras with optical sound galvos, and it is pretty much completely
> > original. It has not been retrofitted for mag heads, and it has not had the
> > top chopped off to put on a 400 foot magazine. To my mind these make it less
> > desirable but some collector somewhere might prefer it.
> >
> > It is in a kit with an RA-30 optical amplifier and all cables (although the
> > cables are old and should probably be rebuilt), and most importantly two
> > spare lamps which is a big deal since they aren't available. The finder is
> > missing but a replacement can probably be located. The body is painted
> > "WNOW-TV CHANNEL 49".
> >
> > The lens on it is a 1" Cooke Filmo lens, which is actually a beautiful,
> > beautiful lens and certainly the most interesting part of the kit to my mind.
> >
> > The dealer wants $2k for the whole kit, which I think is ludicrous, but I
> > think he is just fishing at that price and that he'll be willing to take
> > something a lot more reasonable.
> >
> > Oh, and I didn't apply power to the thing to check the motor although I
> > did turn the movement by hand. If you get this, don't run the motor until
> > you lube the movement or you are likely to tear up the cam which is probably
> > dry by now.
> >
> > here is the thing:
> > http://albederpccenter.com/product/auricon-cine-voice-16mm-sound-on-film-camera-cm-72/
> > If you talk to them tell them that I sent you.
> > --scott
> >
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> >
> >
> > From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com<mailto:kludge at panix.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Auricon for sale
> > Date: August 24, 2015 at 10:26:39 AM PDT
> > To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> >
> >
> > $400 is about fair. I'd offer this guy a little more because of that
> > Cooke lens, but not a whole lot.
> >
> > There are a _lot_ of chop-top options... everybody and his brother was
> > doing a modified top for a magazine. Some are better-made than others.
> > --scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Péter Lichter <lichter84 at gmail.com<mailto:lichter84 at gmail.com>>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Non-Places: Beyond the Infinite
> > Date: August 25, 2015 at 12:11:22 AM PDT
> > To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> > Reply-To: lichter84 at gmail.com<mailto:lichter84 at gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > Let me share with You our new short film: Non-Places: Beyond the Infinite.
> >
> > This is its short synopsis:
> >
> > The French anthropologist Marc Augé's classic essay (Non-Places: Introduction to an Anthropology of Supermodernity) meets with Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey in some Hungarian highway rest areas.
> >
> > This film was shot on Super 8 material with a special camera moving device.
> >
> > Here You can watch it, If you are interested, I made it public for some weeks:
> >
> > https://vimeo.com/137163087
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Péter Lichter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jack Sargeant <jack at jacktext.net<mailto:jack at jacktext.net>>
> > Subject: [Frameworks] help! Looking for images
> > Date: August 25, 2015 at 1:40:26 AM PDT
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm looking for some images for my forthcoming book and wondered if anybody here would be able to help or have any leads.
> >
> > 1) I am looking for an image of the New Cinema, St Marks Place, NYC and / or of one of their programs / posters (ideally for Rome 78).
> >
> > 2) Also if anyone has any pictures of Times Sq or 42nd Street cinema in 70s.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:47:15 +0300
> From: חן שינברג <chennsh at netvision.net.il<mailto:chennsh at netvision.net.il>>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> Message-ID: <4E732481-5E01-43B4-8C04-5F08D643988B at netvision.net.il<mailto:4E732481-5E01-43B4-8C04-5F08D643988B at netvision.net.il>>
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> Harry smith - early abstractions.
>
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>
> ב-26 באוג 2015, בשעה 00:38, Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>> כתב/ה:
>
> > “Chemical Scratching” - I’m sticking to that. Yeah.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, "Beebe, Roger W." <beebe.77 at osu.edu<mailto:beebe.77 at osu.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t…
> >
> > On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham <warrencockerham at gmail.com<mailto:warrencockerham at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Patrick (and Tess)..
> >
> > I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image.
> >
> > hope that helps,
> > Warren
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel <patrick.friel at att.net<mailto:patrick.friel at att.net>> wrote:
> > Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
> >
> > Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)
> >
> > Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)
> >
> > But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
> >
> >
> > Patrick F.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" <crlelbog at uwm.edu<mailto:crlelbog at uwm.edu> <http://crlelbog@uwm.edu/> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tess, hi -
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
> >
> >
> >
> > (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
> >
> >
> >
> > What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > Milwaukee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com> <http://frameworks-bounces@jonasmekasfilms.com/> > on behalf of Tess Takahashi <tess.takahashi at gmail.com<mailto:tess.takahashi at gmail.com> <http://tess.takahashi@gmail.com/> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> > Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> >
> > I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> >
> > What am I missing? Old and New?
> >
> > Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> >
> >
> >
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