[Frameworks] reversed River Rites

[Christopher Ball]

After viewing both, I thought it was interesting that I didn't connect
characters and events in the original (reverse) version, as well as I did
in the forward version.  The reverse version felt more like separate events
interconnected by the camera move, whereas the forward version felt like a
single continuous event.  Did anyone else feel the same way?  It may be
that reversing time and motion breaks the brain's ability to follow a
"storyline" or sequence as easily.

Christopher

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W. <beebe.77 at osu.edu> wrote:

>  Francisco,
>
>  Yes, that was part of the conversation I had with Ben and part of the
> reason I thought he might not want this to circulate in the world.  I don’t
> think my experience of his film (which, again, I’d already seen more than a
> half-dozen times) is diminished by what I learned in the re-reversed
> version though (although it’ll be interesting to revisit it again now).  I
> completely respect anyone who prefers not to know, but I also assume there
> are some people out there who are interested in the process like I was.
>
>  (Nicky, a response to your message coming soon.  I’ve been in transit
> today, so I’ve been slow to reply.)
>
>  For what it’s worth,
> Roger
>
>  On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Doesnt it take the mystery out of it? There are some things in art I
> would rather not know how they are done.
>
> 2015-07-19 15:00 GMT-04:00 Beebe, Roger W. <beebe.77 at osu.edu>:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I assume most of you have, at this point, seen Ben Russell’s River
>> Rites.  I just watched it an additional three times over the past few weeks
>> as part of a show that I presented in Warsaw, Istanbul, and Paris.  As many
>> times as I’ve watched it now, I continued to be confused about how the
>> original action was choreographed, before being reversed in post.  Since I
>> had the file with me, I knew it’d be easy enough to throw it into Premiere
>> and re-reverse it, restoring the original motion to the film.  With Ben’s
>> blessing (after the fact), I went ahead and did it and have posted it to
>> Vimeo.  I do think it’s helped me learn a little something about the film,
>> and I think the end (the former start) is actually pretty poignant in this
>> newly flipped version.  I also reversed the sound and titles as well,
>> although Ben tells me there was some work on the original sound that won’t
>> be revealed in my “righting” of the finished audio.  I took the liberty of
>> retitling this re-reversal too, which maybe means I think this is more than
>> a footnote to the original.  In any case, I do think it only works in
>> palimpsestic relation to Ben’s film, so if you haven’t yet seen River
>> Rites, check that out first here:
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/25532189
>>
>> And the re-reversed version can be found on my Vimeo channel, for the
>> moment with a password, here:
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/133853342
>> pw:  brrb
>>
>> So, yes, an odd thing.  I’d be curious to hear any reactions you have.
>>
>> …
>> Roger
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