[Frameworks] Lis Rhodes? Dynamo Dresden fan? + synch?

Francisco Torres fjtorrespr at gmail.com
Thu Feb 25 18:52:34 UTC 2016


there is this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W85rbPbI7CI



''...cinema's role in new modes of visualization, in reconnaissance and
damage assessment...''

and this....

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/979442.War_and_Cinema

2016-02-25 9:04 GMT-04:00 John Muse <jmuse at sonic.net>:

> I agree with you, Mark.  After watching the "Shoot Shoot Shoot" version
> last night in a hall with a wonderful sound system, I could only think of
> the fire bombing of Dresden, which is curious because London, obviously,
> knows these sounds as well.  That Dresden must be the reference; and even
> if it's not, it should be.  None too subtle either: the score and the
> parades and swarms and cascades and conspire to put thousands of planes in
> the sky; some patterns resemble crosshairs, maps, rail lines and spurs,
> urban spaces.  Fully metaphoric?  No, but forgive me for trying.  A
> futurist anthem?  Not likely.  And I'm not trying to reduce the work to
> this reference, to war and bombardment, but this reference matters, as does
> cinema's role in new modes of visualization, in reconnaissance and damage
> assessment--think of screening this before Farocki's "Images of the World
> and the Inscriptions of War."  The impulse to produce the work was
> materialist, playful, inspired.  The resulting work though has these
> resonances; the title simply owns up to them, no?
>
> The synch offset: we're all agreed!
>
> j
>
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 7:12 AM, Mark Webber <mark at markwebber.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I believe the title is also a reference to the bombing of Dresden in
> World War II, and the qualities of the soundtrack suggest this also. Its
> remarkable how much this soundtrack varies according to the projector it is
> shown on.
> >
> > As Nicky Hamlyn stated, the soundtrack was offset after being made to
> put it in sync with the image during projection. (Light Music was done the
> same way.)
> >
> > It’s remarkable how much these soundtracks vary according to the
> projector they are shown on.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >> Can anyone motivate the title of Lis Rhodes' Dynamo Dresden?  Or is she
> a fan of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamo_Dresden ?
> >>
> >> I was hoping that either the Letratone or the clear leader was
> manufactured in Dresden.
> >>
> >> And she claims that the optical track and the visual track are the
> same, but it looks like (and sounds like) she offset the optical track (26
> frames ahead) so that there would visual and acoustic synch, even though
> she fabricated the optical track and the visual track in one go.  If you go
> to
> http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-modern-tanks/display/lis-rhodes-light-music
> and scroll down to the video, you'll see at 51" prints of the film strip.
> Right?  Wrong?
> >>
> >> j/PrM
> >
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