[Frameworks] Seeking Transcription for "Poetry and Film: A Symposium"

[Michael Zryd]

In his introduction to his most recent book, The Cinema of Poetry, P. Adams Sitney describes his access to the original recording in preparation for editing a volume of Film Culture: 

“… above all the text of the Cinema 16 round table. Amos Vogel has allowed me to borrow the precious wire recordings for one night. I typed and edited the first of the two sessions into one as I was listening to it. (My hasty amateur transcription contains several errors. The symposium as a whole can now be heard on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ>.)”


> On Jul 15, 2016, at 6:22 AM, Ken Eisenstein <ken7eis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> not complete,
> but a chunk, 
> perhaps the same exact chunk as in Film Culture, 
> is in MacDonald's Cinema 16 
> pp.202-212
> 
> "The following excerpts make up about one half of the symposium. 
> Ideas repeated for the second audience and personal introductions 
> of the panel make up, for the most part, the missing half." - SM
> 
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Jonathan Walley <walleyj at denison.edu <mailto:walleyj at denison.edu>> wrote:
> Hi Ken, and gang,
> 
> There are a few copies of this floating around online. I found this:
> http://coronagraph.pastelegram.org/Poetry-and-the-Film-A-Symposium <http://coronagraph.pastelegram.org/Poetry-and-the-Film-A-Symposium>
> 
> You’ll see that it’s actually called “Poetry and THE Film” (back in the day they loved to put “the” in from of film, usually when they meant something like “film as an art form”). And then there’s this, which is amazing:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA-yzqykwcQ>
> 
> Sadly, though perhaps not surprisingly, Dylan Thomas and Arthur Miller come off as jackasses, especially in their plainly misogynistic responses to Maya Deren. Happily, and not at all surprisingly, Deren speaks brilliantly and brushes them off. As I read it, she makes them look stupid, but I’m not sure that would have been the response of a contemporaneous reader/listener. The start of Deren’s statement in the middle of page 178 (this is from Sitney’s Film Culture Reader) is particularly awesome. 
> 
> Anyway, enjoy!
> Best,
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> Dr. Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor and Chair
> Department of Cinema
> Denison University
> walleyj at denison.edu <mailto:walleyj at denison.edu>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal <kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com <mailto:kenpaulrosenthal at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been poking around online for a complete transcription of the Cinema 16 "Poetry and Film: A Symposium" from October 28, 1953, but cannot find it. Any leads out there?
>> 
>> Thanks, Ken
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