[Frameworks] History question

Francisco Torres fjtorrespr at gmail.com
Sun Jun 26 19:04:44 UTC 2016


If you are not sure it was the ''first time ever'' why claim it in the
Vimeo video?

2016-06-26 14:17 GMT-04:00 Tim Halloran <televisual at hotmail.com>:

> Cranky Camper.
>
> Regardless, a pretty cool little film Gregory.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Fred Camper <f at fredcamper.com> wrote:
>
> The question of who was first with an  effect is the most unanswerable
> question in film history. You would have to see every film ever made,
> including all the ones that have been lost, to answer it.
>
> Even if you could answer it, what would the answer mean?
>
> Perhaps the first was a 1937 film by an amateur filmmaker in Finland that
> no one ever saw. So what would that fact signify? Even if "Koyaanisqatsi"
> "popularized" the effect, does that mean that every subsequent use of it
> was a result? Surely there are filmmakers since who discovered it on their
> own. If you are filming a car ride with a camera with single framing, it's
> kind of an obvious thing to try.
>
> I'm pretty sure I've seen this in lesser known "experimental" films of the
> 1960s.
>
> Personally, I hope no one tries it again (just kidding, but not
> completely).
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
>
> On 6/26/2016 10:42 AM, Gutenko, Gregory wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> A historical question:
>
> What was the first film to do a time-exposed single-frame sequence from a car/driver POV?  Koyaanisqatsi popularized the effect in 1983, but when was it first done?  I worked on a student film in 1975 called Nervous on the Road that featured this technique at mid-point, but surely we weren't the first, were we?  You can check a very compressed file of Nervous out on Vimeo athttps://vimeo.com/25296928
>
> When we did this we were going for the slit-scan look of the stargate sequence from 2001, but that was an animation process and we were doing real-world cinematography with a wind-up Bolex.  It won an award at a film festival in 1997 and was broadcast over four midwest PBS stations in 1980 and not shown since.
>
> So who originated this effect?
>
> Gregory Gutenko
>
>
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