[Frameworks] Painting directly to film

[Ingo Petzke]

Myron

That is correct – and that’s why I sent a “disclaimer” the same minute I noticed that I hadn’t read your initial question correctly. Sorry.

What about “Free Radicals” by Len Lye?

Ingo

 

Von: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] Im Auftrag von Myron Ort
Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017 15:15
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I do not recall that Oscar Fischinger applied paint directly to film, can you cite an example of his using that technique? True he is considered an “abstract” film animator but I was hoping to make some finer distinctions even within the area of  techniques involving the appication of paint directly to the film surface. Further, within that specialized arena, I was making distinctions between filmmakers who do figurative animation painting each sequential frame accordingly and those who, borrowing “art associative” terms, paint directly onto film with an approach similar to "abstract expressionism”, not necessarily  accounting for the usual predictive movement continuity associated with animation (or live action for that matter), and in some cases would appear to even “ignore” (in  the usual sense) the frame lines.  I sense a resistance here to the making of such distinctions, as if using any terms of distinction would somehow rob the filmmaker of her soul, a fear similar to those who even feel that being photographed might somehow rob them of their very existence. Sometimes we need to invent language, terminology, or words to point to distinctions which do actually exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:00 AM, Ingo Petzke <ingo at petzke.biz <mailto:ingo at petzke.biz> > wrote:

 

Wat about some Oscar Fischinger? 

 

Cheers

Ingo

 

Von: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] Im Auftrag von Myron Ort
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017 21:06
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Can anyone site an example of “abstract expressionist” painting onto film prior to 1968?  (Hopefully with online viewing availability).

 

 

 <https://vimeo.com/220986135> https://vimeo.com/220986135

 

 

Myron Ort

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