[Frameworks] Electronic Soundtracks for Avant-Garde Films

Fri Dec 22 04:31:52 UTC 2017

Thanks, Mark, for this great list and the reminder of Hammer's Dyketactics.
I'd forgotten that wonderful soundtrack. I'm also reminded now of Ben van
Meter's own electronic soundtrack for S.F. Trips Festival - An Opening, and
for parts of Acid Mantra.

Andy

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Mark Toscano <mrktosc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh Dem Watermelons' soundtrack is indeed an original Steve Reich
> composition/performance with piano and voices, not electronic.  Plastic
> Haircut (1963) contains Reich's first-ever tape piece.  Pretty sure the
> Rainbow in Curved Air on Lawder's Corridor is just from the standard record
> - the film does have a 3-minute intro containing different sound which I
> vaguely recall Standish telling me that he made himself, and that he just
> used the LP otherwise and asked Terry Riley if it was OK.
>
> Also Lawder's Raindance has a great electronic soundtrack by Robert
> Withers.
>
> Pat O'Neill has some fantastic experimental and/or electronic soundtracks
> in many of his earlier films - 7362 is by Joseph Byrd and a few of the '70s
> tracks are by Stan Levine.  I think Pat did the Runs Good track himself.
>
> Barbara Hammer has a number of films with excellent electronic
> soundtracks, including No No Nooky T.V., Optic Nerve, Dyketactics (by BH
> herself)...
>
> Carl Stone did tracks for Adam Beckett's Evolution of the Red Star, Jules
> Engel's Accident, and Roberta Friedman & Grahame Weinbren's Amusement Park
> Composition & Decay.  Barry Schrader scored Beckett's Heavy-Light.
>
> Rick Corrigan's tracks for some of Brakhage's '80s films are pretty great
> - there was even a cassette release of some of them.
>
> Rhys Chatham did soundtracks for Daina Krumins' Aether and The Divine
> Miracle.
>
> Fred Coulter's electronic track for Richard Myers' Akran is pretty intense
> and interesting.
>
> Carter Thomas did excellent tracks for Kathy Rose's Mirror People and
> Sky-David's Sonoma.
>
>
> Mark T
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Andy Ditzler <andy at andyditzler.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think Reich's soundtrack for Watermelons is just piano and voices,
>> though I could be misremembering. A Reich tape collage piece forms the
>> central section of Robert Nelson's Plastic Haircut.
>>
>> Also, Mick Jagger's Moog soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's Invocation of My
>> Demon Brother.
>>
>> The original version of Gordon Matta-Clark's Office Baroque I believe had
>> an electronic soundtrack. This was later replaced by Richard Landry's
>> saxophone-based soundtrack, but if memory serves this had electronic
>> effects and looping as well.
>>
>> I suppose the ascending sine wave tone in Wavelength would count!
>>
>>
>> Andy Ditzler
>> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
>> Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org
>> Fall 2017: Film Love presents The American Music Show retrospective
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>>
>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Ingo Petzke <ingo at petzke.biz> wrote:
>>
>>> Don’t forget the early (tape) work by Steve Reich as can be heard in “Oh
>>> dem watermelons” by Robert Nelson 1965 [though the by-far best of these
>>> early pieces “Come out to show them” unfortunately never made it into a
>>> film soundtrack]
>>>
>>> Also, “Corridor” by Standish Lawder 1971 uses a slightly prolonged
>>> version of “Rainbow in Curved Air” by Riley.
>>>
>>> “Binary Bit Patterns” 1969 by Michael Whitney uses what sounds like
>>> computer-generated music.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ingo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com] *Im
>>> Auftrag von *Elena Duque
>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2017 13:03
>>> *An:* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [Frameworks] Electronic Soundtracks for Avant-Garde Films
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The films by Lillian Schwartz have very nice electronic music
>>> soundtracks:
>>>
>>> http://lillian.com/films/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Conner's Crossroads, with music by Terry Riley and Patrick Gleeson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure if sound experiments like Lis Rhodes or Robert Russett count...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-12-21 12:38 GMT+01:00 Albert Alcoz <albertalcoz at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After asking about jazz
>>>
>>>  and
>>>
>>>  music an experimental film
>>>
>>> , 
>>>
>>> and feeling grateful for all the answers, I was wondering about the
>>> connections between early electronic music and avant-garde film.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Recently I watched *OFFON* (1967-72) by Scott Bartlett with a “sound
>>> composition” by Manny Meyer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, there should be plenty of avant-garde films where the soundtrack
>>> is instrumental electronic music or experimental
>>>
>>> abstract 
>>>
>>> sound created with magnetic tape recorders, synthesizers, electronic
>>> tools, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe one question would be to define what is considered to be early
>>> electronic music but anyway, lets try it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with
>>>
>>> early 
>>>
>>> electronic music
>>>
>>>  from the 50's, 60's, 70's even 80's
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Right now here’s the first list:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Cybernetik 5.3* (1968) by John Stehura. Music: Tod Dockstader.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Crystals* (1968) by Herbert Loebel. Music: Michael Lloyd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rohfilm *(1968) by Birgit & Wilhelm Hein. Music: Christian Michaelis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Two Images for a Computer Piece *(1969) by Lloyd Williams. Music:
>>> Vladimir Ussachevsky.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Variations on a Cellophane Wrapper* (1970) by David Rimmer. Music: Don
>>> Druick.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Berlin Horse* (1970) de Malcolm Le Grice. Music: Brian Eno.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Mutations* (1973) by Lilian F. Schwartz. Music: Jean Claude Risset.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Several films by Dore O. and Werner Nekes with sountracks by Anthony
>>> Moore like *Diwan *(1973) or* Kaskara* (1974).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Riddles of the Sphinx* (1977) by Laura Mulvey and Peter Wollen. Music:
>>> Mike Ratledge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Albert Alcoz
>>>
>>>
>>>
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