[Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera

Fri Jul 14 15:09:38 UTC 2017

Thanks for the input. A local art school was curious about it and I wanted
to ask around, since I know nothing about this hybrid model and its
expenses.

thanks!
meg

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Kodak Super8 digital camera (Margaret Rorison)
>    2. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (Jeff Kreines)
>    3. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (Francisco Torres)
>    4. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (Dave Tetzlaff)
>    5. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (j miner)
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> From: Margaret Rorison <margaret.b.rorison at gmail.com>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:23:55 -0400
> Subject: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
> Has anyone had the chance to experience and use this tool?
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> Any exciting notes, critiques or comments?
>
> thanks!
> Meg
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> From: Jeff Kreines <jeff at kinetta.com>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:38:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
> It's a camera designed by someone who had never used a Super-8 film
> camera. Mindless design. No optical viewfinder, just a flip out video
> screen. The only good thing about it is the C-mount lens.
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> Plus, it is overpriced.
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> jeff at kinetta.com
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> On Jul 13, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Margaret Rorison <
> margaret.b.rorison at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Has anyone had the chance to experience and use this tool?
>
> Any exciting notes, critiques or comments?
>
> thanks!
> Meg
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> http://sightunseenbaltimore.com/
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> From: Francisco Torres <fjtorrespr at gmail.com>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:42:37 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
> Has it been released yet? As far as I know it has not yet hit stores.
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> 2017-07-13 14:23 GMT-04:00 Margaret Rorison <margaret.b.rorison at gmail.com>
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>> Has anyone had the chance to experience and use this tool?
>>
>> Any exciting notes, critiques or comments?
>>
>> thanks!
>> Meg
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>> http://sightunseenbaltimore.com/
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> From: Dave Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:05:40 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
> > Mindless design. No optical viewfinder, just a flip out video screen.
> Plus, it is overpriced.
>
> The projected price of the initial "limited edition” version is $2000,
> with a less expensive “standard edition” supposedly to follow. It’s a film
> camera, so the real cost is in the stock and processing:
>
> > Filmmakers using the new Kodak camera can send the 50’ cartridge to
> Kodak for developing and for a $100 developing fee Kodak will mail back to
> the filmmaker the developed film on a reel as well post a scanned digital
> version of the 2.5 minute film in a password protected cloud file.
>
> I’d have to guess the concept and pricing reflect a similar approach to
> The Impossible Project’s new design Polaroid film camera, also very
> expensive. These things seem targeted at cost-no-object users in Hollywood
> and hipsterdom, who get off on having whatever tool – vintage or
> new-fangled – has been used by some cel;ebrity maker in some high-profile
> project.
>
> > Before the reborn Super 8 camera has even hit store, big Hollywood names
> such as directors Steve Spielberg, Christopher Nolam, and J.J. Abrams have
> endorsed the product.
>
> For reference, Pro8mm in Burbank sells rebuilt Beaulieu 4008’s for $2000.
>
> I’d expect folks who want to do experimental work in S8 to stick to old
> Canons and Nizos or whatever shows up in decent condition at the local
> thrift store or on eBay.
>
> Jeff: what’s the problem with having what amounts to video assist versus a
> dim optical finder? Isn’t the good news here for photochemical filmies that
> some sort of stock and processing options will remain available from Kodak
> a while longer now that they have this thing to support?
>
> There’s a 46 second test clip from a Kodak prototype on YT [
> http://tinyurl.com/yayv8yok] complete with plastic pressure-plate
> registration flutter, dust and scratch in the negative glitches, and a nice
> chunk of crud in the gate. Ahh, the memories...
>
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> From: j miner <jedminerart at gmail.com>
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> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 02:07:51 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
> it will be released by winter i imagine.
> i think it will be better than the chinon
> bellami hd 1
> also it will not make you bitter inside
>
> On Thursday, July 13, 2017, Dave Tetzlaff <djtet53 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Mindless design. No optical viewfinder, just a flip out video screen.
>> Plus, it is overpriced.
>>
>> The projected price of the initial "limited edition” version is $2000,
>> with a less expensive “standard edition” supposedly to follow. It’s a film
>> camera, so the real cost is in the stock and processing:
>>
>> > Filmmakers using the new Kodak camera can send the 50’ cartridge to
>> Kodak for developing and for a $100 developing fee Kodak will mail back to
>> the filmmaker the developed film on a reel as well post a scanned digital
>> version of the 2.5 minute film in a password protected cloud file.
>>
>> I’d have to guess the concept and pricing reflect a similar approach to
>> The Impossible Project’s new design Polaroid film camera, also very
>> expensive. These things seem targeted at cost-no-object users in Hollywood
>> and hipsterdom, who get off on having whatever tool – vintage or
>> new-fangled – has been used by some cel;ebrity maker in some high-profile
>> project.
>>
>> > Before the reborn Super 8 camera has even hit store, big Hollywood
>> names such as directors Steve Spielberg, Christopher Nolam, and J.J. Abrams
>> have endorsed the product.
>>
>> For reference, Pro8mm in Burbank sells rebuilt Beaulieu 4008’s for $2000.
>>
>> I’d expect folks who want to do experimental work in S8 to stick to old
>> Canons and Nizos or whatever shows up in decent condition at the local
>> thrift store or on eBay.
>>
>> Jeff: what’s the problem with having what amounts to video assist versus
>> a dim optical finder? Isn’t the good news here for photochemical filmies
>> that some sort of stock and processing options will remain available from
>> Kodak a while longer now that they have this thing to support?
>>
>> There’s a 46 second test clip from a Kodak prototype on YT [
>> http://tinyurl.com/yayv8yok] complete with plastic pressure-plate
>> registration flutter, dust and scratch in the negative glitches, and a nice
>> chunk of crud in the gate. Ahh, the memories...
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