[Frameworks] Seeking Examples of film elegies

Tue Aug 28 23:26:45 UTC 2018

My 10-minute digital film, Threnody,  is a consideration of mortality in which I examined the residue and physical artifacts of death and memorialized the loss of friends ( including Hollis Frampton and James Broughton)  and victims of 9/11/01.
It is available from Canyon Cinema in San Francisco and LUX in London and is streaming here:  https://www.kanopy.com/product/films-janis-crystal-lipzin-2003-2014

Janis Crystal Lipzin
jlipzin at aol.com
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>   1. Re: Estar slide film (Scott Dorsey)
>   2. Seeking examples of film elegies (Sarah Bliss)
>   3. Re: Seeking examples of film elegies (christopher nigel)
>   4. Re: Seeking examples of film elegies (Gene Youngblood)
>   5. Re: Seeking examples of film elegies (Katherine T Model)
>   6. Re: Seeking examples of film elegies (Adam Hyman)
>   7. Re: Seeking examples of film elegies (Christian Bruno)
>   8. Re: Seeking examples of film elegies (Aman Wadhan)
>   9. Re: Seeking examples of film elegies (Ekrem Serdar)
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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:14:11 -0400
> From: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
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> Open up one of the slide mounts.  Read the emulsion number off the piece of
> film.  Tell us what it is, and we might be able to answer your question.
> 
> Also... what do you currently have that you want to turn into slides?  Are
> they negatives, or are they slide originals, or are they prints?
> --scott
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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 10:49:36 -0400
> From: Sarah Bliss <bliss at sarahblissart.com>
> To: frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: [Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies
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> Greetings Frameworkers,
> 
> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with love, since the death of our beloved Rob Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies.  What filmic examples of elegies do you know?
> 
> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English poetry, it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but ends in consolation."
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sarah Bliss
> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
> 
> 
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> From: christopher nigel <christophernigel64 at gmail.com>
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> Robert Frank Film / The Present
> 
> Dealing with the death of his son Pablo / how do you go on in life !
> 
> Best
> 
> Christopher
> 
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Sarah Bliss <bliss at sarahblissart.com>
> wrote:
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>> Greetings Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with
>> love, since the death of our beloved Rob Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a
>> salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies.  What filmic
>> examples of elegies do you know?
>> 
>> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English
>> poetry, it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but
>> ends in consolation."
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sarah Bliss
>> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
>> 
>> 
>> Frame grab from *La Petite Mort*
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> From: Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>
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> Alexander Sokurov?s trilogy, Elegy of a Voyage, Elegy of the Land and Moscow Elegy (lovely portrait of Kozintsev?s apartment). ? ? ? ? ? ?
> 
> 
> On August 28, 2018 at 9:05:14 AM, Sarah Bliss (bliss at sarahblissart.com) wrote:
> 
> Greetings Frameworkers,
> 
> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with love, since the death of our beloved Rob Todd. ?At AgX, we sometimes hold a salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies. ?What filmic examples of elegies do you know?
> 
> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as:?"In traditional English poetry, it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but ends in consolation."
> 
> Thanks,?
> 
> Sarah Bliss
> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
> 
> 
> Frame grab from?La Petite Mort
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> From: Katherine T Model <ktm2000 at nyu.edu>
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> Threnody?Nathaniel Dorsky
> 
> The Dragon is the Frame?Mary Helena Clark
> 
> Best,
> Katie Model
> 
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:40 PM Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Alexander Sokurov?s trilogy, Elegy of a Voyage, Elegy of the Land and
>> Moscow Elegy (lovely portrait of Kozintsev?s apartment).
>> 
>> 
>> On August 28, 2018 at 9:05:14 AM, Sarah Bliss (bliss at sarahblissart.com)
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with
>> love, since the death of our beloved Rob Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a
>> salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies.  What filmic
>> examples of elegies do you know?
>> 
>> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English
>> poetry, it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but
>> ends in consolation."
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sarah Bliss
>> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
>> 
>> 
>> Frame grab from *La Petite Mort*
>> 
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> From: Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org>
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> 	<frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>" <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies
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> Perhaps Necrology by Standish Lawder.  Does it work as elegy, for you to
> decide:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dadi7mw5gCs
> 
> When we had a memorial screening for Brakhage, we included
> Passage Through: A Ritual  (1990, 16mm, color/ sound, 50min)
> 
> And also Brakhage?s Panels for the Walls of Heaven is really lovely (2002,
> color, silent, 31 min.) Print courtesy of the Academy Film Archive.
> 
> And Kitch?s Last Meal, by Carolee Schneemann, (1976, 55 min.), perhaps.
> Hard to know what will work as consolation.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Adam Hyman
> 
> From:  FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com> on behalf of
> Katherine T Model <ktm2000 at nyu.edu>
> 
> Threnody?Nathaniel Dorsky
> The Dragon is the Frame?Mary Helena Clark
> 
> Best,
> Katie Model
> 
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:40 PM Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Alexander Sokurov?s trilogy, Elegy of a Voyage, Elegy of the Land and Moscow
> Elegy (lovely portrait of Kozintsev?s apartment).
> 
> 
> 
> On August 28, 2018 at 9:05:14 AM, Sarah Bliss (bliss at sarahblissart.com)
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Greetings Frameworkers,
> 
> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with
> love, since the death of our beloved Rob
> Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a salon for members. The theme of our next
> will be elegies.  What filmic examples of
> elegies do you know?
> 
> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English poetry,
> it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but ends in
> consolation."
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sarah Bliss
> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
> 
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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:09:54 +0000
> From: Christian Bruno <honeyhouses at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies
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> I feel like Bruce Conner's White Rose has so many of the right elements of an elegy.
> 
> 
> best
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com> on behalf of Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks at jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies
> 
> Perhaps Necrology by Standish Lawder.  Does it work as elegy, for you to decide:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dadi7mw5gCs
> [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.LFJAvlFUqDkfYu6ZsrSL1gEsDh&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dadi7mw5gCs>
> 
> Necrology (Standish Lawder, 1970)<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dadi7mw5gCs>
> www.youtube.com
> Necrology (Standish Lawder, 1970)
> 
> 
> When we had a memorial screening for Brakhage, we included
> Passage Through: A Ritual  (1990, 16mm, color/ sound, 50min)
> 
> And also Brakhage?s Panels for the Walls of Heaven is really lovely (2002, color, silent, 31 min.) Print courtesy of the Academy Film Archive.
> 
> And Kitch?s Last Meal, by Carolee Schneemann, (1976, 55 min.), perhaps.  Hard to know what will work as consolation.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Adam Hyman
> 
> From:  FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com>> on behalf of Katherine T Model <ktm2000 at nyu.edu<mailto:ktm2000 at nyu.edu>>
> 
> Threnody?Nathaniel Dorsky
> The Dragon is the Frame?Mary Helena Clark
> 
> Best,
> Katie Model
> 
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:40 PM Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net<mailto:atopia at comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Alexander Sokurov?s trilogy, Elegy of a Voyage, Elegy of the Land and Moscow Elegy (lovely portrait of Kozintsev?s apartment).
> 
> On August 28, 2018 at 9:05:14 AM, Sarah Bliss (bliss at sarahblissart.com<mailto:bliss at sarahblissart.com>) wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings Frameworkers,
> 
> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with love, since the death of our beloved Rob
> Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies.  What filmic examples of
> elegies do you know?
> 
> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English poetry, it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but ends in consolation."
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sarah Bliss
> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
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> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:29:08 +0530
> From: Aman Wadhan <amanwadhan at gmail.com>
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> 'Mass for the Dakota Sioux' (1964)
> Bruce Baillie
> 
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, Sarah Bliss <bliss at sarahblissart.com> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with
>> love, since the death of our beloved Rob Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a
>> salon for members. The theme of our next will be elegies.  What filmic
>> examples of elegies do you know?
>> 
>> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English
>> poetry, it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but
>> ends in consolation."
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sarah Bliss
>> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
>> 
>> 
>> Frame grab from *La Petite Mort*
>> 
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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 17:41:12 -0400
> From: Ekrem Serdar <ekrem at squeaky.org>
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> Three beautiful ones dedicated to, about Marion McMahon that I think would
> be appropriate:
> *Froglight* by Sarah Abbott
> *Behind this Soft Eclipse* by Eve Heller
> of course, *What these Ashes Wanted *by Philip Hoffman
> 
> Also, Abraham Ravett's *Tziporah*
> 
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 2:31 PM Adam Hyman <adam at lafilmforum.org> wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps *Necrology* by Standish Lawder.  Does it work as elegy, for you
>> to decide:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dadi7mw5gCs
>> 
>> When we had a memorial screening for Brakhage, we included
>> *Passage Through: A Ritual*  (1990, 16mm, color/ sound, 50min)
>> 
>> And also Brakhage?s *Panels for the Walls of Heaven* is really lovely
>> (2002, color, silent, 31 min.) Print courtesy of the Academy Film Archive.
>> 
>> And Kitch?s Last Meal, by Carolee Schneemann, (1976, 55 min.), perhaps.
>> Hard to know what will work as consolation.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Adam Hyman
>> 
>> From:  FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com> on behalf of
>> Katherine T Model <ktm2000 at nyu.edu>
>> 
>> Threnody?Nathaniel Dorsky
>> The Dragon is the Frame?Mary Helena Clark
>> 
>> Best,
>> Katie Model
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:40 PM Gene Youngblood <atopia at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Alexander Sokurov?s trilogy, Elegy of a Voyage, Elegy of the Land and
>> Moscow Elegy (lovely portrait of Kozintsev?s apartment).
>> 
>> On August 28, 2018 at 9:05:14 AM, Sarah Bliss (bliss at sarahblissart.com)
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Greetings Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with
>> love, since the death of our beloved Rob
>> Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a salon for members. The theme of our
>> next will be elegies.  What filmic examples of
>> elegies do you know?
>> 
>> The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English poetry,
>> it is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject?s death but ends in
>> consolation."
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sarah Bliss
>> http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> FrameWorks mailing list
>> FrameWorks at jonasmekasfilms.com
>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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