[Frameworks] Documentaries within/with a group subject and participatory filmmaker(s)

[Scott MacDonald]

*Naaah, Punishment Park is not just faux doc style applied to fiction.
Watkins devised a fictional situation (based on aspects of the political
reality of that moment and a premonition of where reality might go next, as
of 1970), set up so that actors playing their real ideological selves (that
is, cast to play themselves and improvise their own dialogue) could
enunciate what they were actually feeling in 1971 and have their
impassioned arguments with each other documented--as the war in Vietnam
continued.*

*I don't think Sonya is looking for a narrow definition of "documentary." *

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Jeff Kreines <jeff at kinetta.com> wrote:

> None of those Peter Watkins films are documentaries. Faux-documentary
> style applied to fiction does not a documentary make.  You should know
> better.
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> jeff at kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> On Jul 10, 2018, at 2:09 PM, luis ? <mabalufilm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 25Cines/seg (2017) Luis Macías
>
>
>
>
> El mar., 10 jul. 2018 a las 20:17, Jeff Kreines (<jeff at kinetta.com>)
> escribió:
>
>> Demon Lover Diary, by Joel DeMott.
>>
>> Jeff Kreines
>> Kinetta
>> jeff at kinetta.com
>> kinetta.com
>>
>> Sent from iPhone.
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Sonya Mladenova <sonya.mladenova at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Looking for documentary films shot with/within a group of people engaged
>> in an activity or some kind of project, independently or in an organized
>> environment,* in which the filmmaker is a visible and/or an active
>> participatory presence*. I'm especially interested in films from the
>> last 25-30 years. I'm investigating the relationship between the filmed
>> person(s) and the person(s) filming, whatever the configuration.
>>
>> Somes examples, but not limited in scope:
>> Starless Dreams by Mehrdad Oskouei
>> À ciel ouvert by Mariana Otero
>> La moindre des choses by Nicolas Philibert
>>
>> Many many thanks,
>>
>> Sonya
>>
>>
>>
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