[Frameworks] Entertaining the film

[Andy Ditzler]

Hello Nicole,

I'm not clear on the original question - "a person or persons enter into
the film world/narrative" - enter from where?

Do you mean breaking the fourth wall, only in reverse? For example, a
character directly addresses the camera/audience, then moves into the
diegesis? This happens a lot in the TV series House of Cards.

The opening scene of Woody Allen's Annie Hall does this, sort of.

William Holden's opening narration in Sunset Boulevard?

I would think it's more common to find films that move in the opposite
direction, a character breaking the fourth wall after being within the
narrative.

Andy Ditzler
Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org



On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:22 PM Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
>
> It seems there are fewer than I expected. I was considering this something
> of a film trope. Would you guys agree?
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 9:04 AM Lara Hannawi <larahannawi at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> a fun odd one where the subject is trying to depart from the film, within
>> the film, you can say she's breaking down the 4th wall, the theatre of
>> film, so in that sense she's doing the opposite of what you're looking for.
>> its ayneh, or the mirror, by panahi.
>>
>> ------ Original message------
>> *From: *Patrick Friel
>> *Date: *Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:01
>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List;
>> *Cc: *
>> *Subject:*Re: [Frameworks] Entertaining the film
>>
>> Buster Keaton's SHERLOCK JR. is the classic example.
>>
>> Also, HELLZAPOPPIN' with Ole Olson and Chic Johnson.
>>
>> Chuck Jones' great cartoon DUCK AMUCK is a variant on this.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:48 PM, Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey frameworkers!
>>
>> I'm trying to gather together a list of films where a person or persons
>> enter into the film world/narrative.
>> I know I've seen it, but can't think of any examples! Besides that Take
>> on Me music video (which is close but no cigar).
>> Examples from TV would work too.
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>> Nicole
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