[Frameworks] Entertaining the film

[Warren Cockerham]

"What I was picturing specifically was something where a movie goer at a
cinema walks into the screen, or is otherwise drawn into it and finds
themselves in that films world."

Does VIDEODROME (1983)count?

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:26 PM, Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
> Thanks for asking for clarification. I am thinking of films along the
> lines of Pleasantville, where "real world" people are transported into a
> narrative world by magical/fantastic means.
> What I was picturing specifically was something where a movie goer at a
> cinema walks into the screen, or is otherwise drawn into it and finds
> themselves in that films world.
> I hope that helps.
> Also the subject was meant to read "entering the film".
> Thanks so much to everyone for your input!
>
> On Jul 20, 2018 6:56 AM, "Andy Ditzler" <andy at andyditzler.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Nicole,
>
> I'm not clear on the original question - "a person or persons enter into
> the film world/narrative" - enter from where?
>
> Do you mean breaking the fourth wall, only in reverse? For example, a
> character directly addresses the camera/audience, then moves into the
> diegesis? This happens a lot in the TV series House of Cards.
>
> The opening scene of Woody Allen's Annie Hall does this, sort of.
>
> William Holden's opening narration in Sunset Boulevard?
>
> I would think it's more common to find films that move in the opposite
> direction, a character breaking the fourth wall after being within the
> narrative.
>
>
> Andy Ditzler
> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
> Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:22 PM Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
>>
>> It seems there are fewer than I expected. I was considering this
>> something of a film trope. Would you guys agree?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, 9:04 AM Lara Hannawi <larahannawi at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> a fun odd one where the subject is trying to depart from the film,
>>> within the film, you can say she's breaking down the 4th wall, the theatre
>>> of film, so in that sense she's doing the opposite of what you're looking
>>> for. its ayneh, or the mirror, by panahi.
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *Patrick Friel
>>> *Date: *Tue, Jul 17, 2018 18:01
>>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List;
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>>> *Subject:*Re: [Frameworks] Entertaining the film
>>>
>>> Buster Keaton's SHERLOCK JR. is the classic example.
>>>
>>> Also, HELLZAPOPPIN' with Ole Olson and Chic Johnson.
>>>
>>> Chuck Jones' great cartoon DUCK AMUCK is a variant on this.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:48 PM, Nicole Baker <nebaker at pnca.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey frameworkers!
>>>
>>> I'm trying to gather together a list of films where a person or persons
>>> enter into the film world/narrative.
>>> I know I've seen it, but can't think of any examples! Besides that Take
>>> on Me music video (which is close but no cigar).
>>> Examples from TV would work too.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>> Nicole
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