[Frameworks] Long takes and still images/ photography in experimental films

Mon Mar 12 14:01:48 UTC 2018

Thanks to all,
Great and so generous comments. And indeed sorry for being so imprecise
when I asked to reference on "long takes". What I was wondering, was an
intrinsic relationship between long takes and still images. Films that
include both procedures. Like Weerasathakul  in Uncle Boonme that include
both or when Sukurov and Tarkovsky make long takes from paintings (If we
consider painting also as still images) or even Hollis Frampton's Nostalgia
and the classic Wavelength by Michael Snow.
Once again thanks and I will check all the stuff you share with me,
Best,
Sebastian

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2018-03-12 10:55 GMT-03:00 konstantinos goutos <videoflaneur at gmail.com>:

> ...since 2002 I am only working (or walking;) with long takes
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> 12 Μαρ 2018, 2:38 μμ, ο χρήστης «konstantinos-antonios goutos <
> videoflaneur at gmail.com>» έγραψε:
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> Στις Κυρ, 11 Μαρ 2018 στις 8:10 μμ ο χρήστης lady snowblood <
> snowbloods.parasol at gmail.com> έγραψε:
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>> I know it’s “television” but ... Twin Peaks : The Return is, in its
>> entirety, astonishingly slow. Certain scenes are given the padding of ‘not
>> turning away’ from really uncomfortable moments (especially couples
>> fighting). One episode ends with a 3.5 minute shot of a bartender sweeping
>> up peanut shells from the bar.
>>
>> The whole series lasts 18 hours; Lynch exhausts the viewer’s expectation
>> of ‘plot movement’ early on by shifting the pacing. Pacing and sound design
>> really put this in an ‘experimental’ space.
>>
>> I know it’s not film, and I know it’s pretty easy to tag the whole thing
>> ‘Brechtian’ and move on, but it’s remarkable that this ended up on Showtime
>> last year ... Every time an email comes through answering this question I
>> think about the remarkable slowness and prevalence of single camera long
>> shots; I need to say it :)
>>
>> Jessica
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>> * * * * *
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>> Jessica Fenlon
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>> On Mar 11, 2018, at 10:28 AM, Gashouse Films <gashousefilms at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Add in Filipino filmmaker Lav Diaz whose films average  length around 4-6
>> hrs
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza <
>> jorgelorenzo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Gottheim's work.
>>>
>>>
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>>> *De:* FrameWorks <frameworks-bounces at jonasmekasfilms.com> en nombre de
>>> graemehogg at irational.org <graemehogg at irational.org>
>>> *Enviado:* viernes, 9 de marzo de 2018 09:58 a. m.
>>> *Para:* Experimental Film Discussion List
>>> *Asunto:* Re: [Frameworks] Long takes and still images/ photography in
>>> experimental films
>>>
>>>
>>> Whats long? ASL for industrial cinema ranges from 3 - 6 seconds, so a
>>> shot
>>> of even 10 seconds would be double the average. The shot length possible
>>> on a clockwork Bolex of about 20 seconds is common throughout the field
>>> you
>>> are researching so are they normal or long? Does experimental cinema
>>> materialogically deal with longer takes, so is there 'long' for exp'
>>> cinema and long for 'narrative' cinema? The two being different. Does a
>>> still frame copied thousands of times on a printer constitute a 'take'?
>>> Does animation count as 'take based', ie Rhythmus 21 is a continuous
>>> flow
>>> that is unified in the end as a take?
>>>
>>> Sorry for all the questions.....
>>>
>>> I guess check out 'Motion(less) Pictures: The Cinema of Stasis (Film and
>>> Culture Series)' by Justin Remes amongst probably loads of other good
>>> books.
>>>
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>>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2018, Sebastian Wiedemann wrote:
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>>> > [7dd061b1eb7afcde9b6c43cda741479e5ff7e486.png?u=95490]
>>> > Dear Frameworkers,
>>> > I'm beginning a research about the presence of long takes and still
>>> images/photography as expressive resources in the production of
>>> experimental films.
>>> > If anyone has in mind films that work with these procedures and can
>>> share with me some titles, I will appreciate a lot.
>>> > Best,
>>> > Sebastian
>>> >
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